Good Deal??? 1990 58C

[capttonyf]

Does anyone know this boat and it's current condition? If the overall condition is good and the only major problem is a Clapped out motor this may have the potential of being a Great Deal for someone. The 65C is a better, shallower boat with the same operating costs but if this boat can be purchased for $50,000 and you put $100,000 into a rebuilt motor and misc updates you may have something here. The listing even states it has $50K in motor parts that come with it. Hope this helps someone out.

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/Hatteras-58-Convertible-2737189/Corpus-Christi/TX/United-States

Tony.

 

[jim rosenthal]

That looks like a lot of work. Nice interior, though. Maybe some brave HOF member is stepping up to the plate, even as we read this...

 

[saltshaker]

If they have all the parts i wonder why they arent fixing it. Boat looks good and not many 58C have the dark wood interiors. Big concern would be the bad crank. If thats the case then the engine has to come out. If the block is damaged then the repair will be even higher. But given the price and the parts that come with it. It does sound like it could be a good deal. I almost bought a very clean one that had high time on one engine. Engine was tired but still running reasonably well. I went up to 180K but the seller wanted more. Boat sold over a year later for around 185K. If this one could be bought fixed and put in good condition for 150K id think that would be a real nice deal, providing the other engine is good.

 

[krush]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

 

[rsmith]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

 

[Pete]

Krush, AMEN, you would not see the current market values for mid sized recreational classic boats, if use for their intended purpose made any economic sense. Even given one free, you then have the fuel, maintenance, parts costs, dockage, etc. of a seven figure boat. As you point out, if you can afford to own and use it, you have what it takes to buy newer.

Pete

 

[krush]

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

Fishing is a fun activity...it will just have to be done from the dock.

 

[Boatsb]

Fishing is a fun activity...it will just have to be done from the dock.

What's your favorite fish krush?

Charmin snapper or trouser trout? They're the only think usually caught at the dock.

 

[saltshaker]

Pull the engines (chop into small pieces) and put in small deeres, kubota, cummins, etc and make a trawler. $4 diesel is here, next is $5. Those that can afford to run these boats can also afford a much newer/nicer boat.

Fix it and keep it the way it was designed. Given all the parts that come with it, it would probably cost more to repower with new small diesels than to fix the 16V92. The cost to get the engines out will be the same either way. A used set of 3412 Cats would be a nice package for that boat.

 

[saltshaker]

If your going to go sloooow the boat needs a keel to keep it tracking straight in any kind of following sea. I don't know about the 58 but I've fished on some of thesekeel less go fast boats and they suck trolling in a beam or following sea.

The 58C has the biggest keel I've ever seen on a SF. Boat draws 5'11" because of it. My 65 has a pretty good sized keel but not nearly as deep as the 58C. Not sure how stable the boat would be at 7-8 kts after removing 16K lbs from low in the hull. Making a SF into a trawler is a bad idea unless you plan on filing the ER with lead.

 

[Boatsb]

The 58C has the biggest keel I've ever seen on a SF. Boat draws 5'11" because of it. My 65 has a pretty good sized keel but not nearly as deep as the 58C. Not sure how stable the boat would be at 7-8 kts after removing 16K lbs from low in the hull. Making a SF into a trawler is a bad idea unless you plan on filing the ER with lead.

Pull the motors and replace with 50 HP sailboat motors that burn .25 gph.

Add a lead keel cap. Ballast and Xtra water tanks. Then you cruise it at 4 to 6 kts and live off the inverter for months at a time. No need for ac. Hand pump fresh water and head. Look at all the money you'll save.

 

[saltshaker]

Pull the motors and replace with 50 HP sailboat motors that burn .25 gph.

Add a lead keel cap. Ballast and Xtra water tanks. Then you cruise it at 4 to 6 kts and live off the inverter for months at a time. No need for ac. Hand pump fresh water and head. Look at all the money you'll save.

Why not hoist a sail from the outriggers? Either fix it properly or let some else do it right. If you want a trawler buy a trawler.

 

[jim rosenthal]

I didn't know these had 16-92s. Did I read that right?

3406Es sound like a good bet. Enough power, use less fuel, and easier to work around. You might even get something for the remaining working engine and the broken one as a core.

 

[Boatsb]

Why not hoist a sail from the outriggers? Either fix it properly or let some else do it right. If you want a trawler buy a trawler.

Be real Jack. Outriggers are not strong enough to hold sails. I can't believe some of the hair brain schemes people post here.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Maybe a spinnaker, though. Maynard? Any comments?

 

[saltshaker]

I didn't know these had 16-92s. Did I read that right?

3406Es sound like a good bet. Enough power, use less fuel, and easier to work around. You might even get something for the remaining working engine and the broken one as a core.

3406s are way too small for that boat. It's a huge 58.

 

[rsmith]

Buy the boat for 40 sell the 50k worth of parts for 25 sell the good engine and genny for 30 sell the hull for 10 and come out 25k ahead.

 

[jim rosenthal]

3406s are way too small for that boat. It's a huge 58.

You're right. I wasn't looking closely. For some reason I thought it was a 48C. 58s had 12-92s, or 16-92s as an option. 3406s would make her a trawler.

 

[foleyjt]

She's on eBay now, 4 days remaining. Seller has removed the reserve and current bid is $45,100.
if the description is true, the boat is essentially free. Sure looks too good to be true.

 

[krush]

Be real Jack. Outriggers are not strong enough to hold sails. I can't believe some of the hair brain schemes people post here.

No need for a sail, just kite it: http://images.machinedesign.com/images/archive/71648kiteshipjp_00000049585.jpg