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Good Deal??? 1990 58C

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I think you'd be tempted to go boating, but you do have smaller boats for that.

You could take out the engines altogether and have yourself a huge wine cellar.
 
Flick said:
Randy I had the same thought. Ive been looking for something for a live aboard in the Florida Keys. For $50,000 it was less expensive and a better hull than any houseboats I've seen. Thought hard about bidding, even thought about contacting you to help get it across the Gulf since you have had experience with one engine gulf trips! I have a 31" Hatt, a 15' skiff, a dingy, and a kayak so I wasn't to concerned, nor could I afford for it to ever leave the dock after relocation. I m sure many would say this would be a horrible waist of a great boat but it would be a much better on the water condo than a house boat sitting on some pontoons. I ve heard so many comments on this site about boats not being a good deal even if it was given away. I understand that with a total refit. So what's wrong with this idea? Any thoughts?
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What a shame it would be to place it in the Boat Grave Yard, I could see it now with a few Window Rattler A/C Units and your Laundry hanging off the Out Riggers. It would be real cute. Where in the Keys, you may have to Drag in there with a Tug? It would be a great livaboard, BUT a livaboard kept in yacht condition and allowed to stretch her legs offshore once in a while, not a yacht moored in Houseboat Hollow.

It would be one heck of an overbuilt house thats for sure.

Tony
 
Who would ever thought that 1.2 million dollar Hatteras would only be worth 50K?? Very sad!!!

Even sadder to think about it ending up on derelict row.
 
captddis said:
Who would ever thought that 1.2 million dollar Hatteras would only be worth 50K?? Very sad!!!

Even sadder to think about it ending up on derelict row.
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Hopefully the new owner will put her back together properly.
 
Flick said:
Randy I had the same thought. Ive been looking for something for a live aboard in the Florida Keys. For $50,000 it was less expensive and a better hull than any houseboats I've seen. Thought hard about bidding, even thought about contacting you to help get it across the Gulf since you have had experience with one engine gulf trips! I have a 31" Hatt, a 15' skiff, a dingy, and a kayak so I wasn't to concerned, nor could I afford for it to ever leave the dock after relocation. I m sure many would say this would be a horrible waist of a great boat but it would be a much better on the water condo than a house boat sitting on some pontoons. I ve heard so many comments on this site about boats not being a good deal even if it was given away. I understand that with a total refit. So what's wrong with this idea? Any thoughts?
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Well, my thoughts mirror yours. As for it being a waste of a great boat to make it a floating condo, half the Hatts on this forum never leave the dock. There is no way in hell I could afford to put it back into proper running condition, at least not now. ANYBODY who puts that boat into tip top, running condition is likely to lose their butt on it when they go to sell it in five years, but I dare say nobody would lose a penny, ever, if they just maintained it "as is" and used it as a home on the water. It would still look like a million bucks sitting at the dock.
 
capttonyf said:
What a shame it would be to place it in the Boat Grave Yard, I could see it now with a few Window Rattler A/C Units and your Laundry hanging off the Out Riggers. It would be real cute. Where in the Keys, you may have to Drag in there with a Tug? It would be a great livaboard, BUT a livaboard kept in yacht condition and allowed to stretch her legs offshore once in a while, not a yacht moored in Houseboat Hollow.

It would be one heck of an overbuilt house thats for sure.

Tony
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Why would you picture it with "Window Rattler A/C units and your Laundry hanging off the Out Riggers"? Worst case scenario, you upgrade/replace what's there, and it had a washer/dryer which could be upgraded/replaced as well. Chump change when you look at the big picture, not to mention this thing comes completely furnished. Think of what it would cost to have that much square footage, afloat or not, for $50K. I think we missed the deal of the century unless the photos were 10 years old, but the growth on the hull would lead me to believe they were current.
 
I have a question for the mechanics here. How to you do a complete overhaul and not know the crank is bad? Does the entire engine need to be redone inorder to fix it? Any of the major rebuild parts salvageable or do you start over? Based on the listing I was under the impression that the parts were waiting to be installed. I thought they ordered parts and started the top end when they discovered the crank was bad. If they essentially rebuilt the engine and now he dumped it do 50K the cost to fix it has to be significant. I looked at a boat that had a 12V92 rebuilt that had a bad crank. Mechanics bill for one engine well over 100K. I remember it being 120 or 130 but not sure. Either way it was a lot
 
Freeebird said:
Why would you picture it with "Window Rattler A/C units and your Laundry hanging off the Out Riggers"? Worst case scenario, you upgrade/replace what's there, and it had a washer/dryer which could be upgraded/replaced as well. Chump change when you look at the big picture, not to mention this thing comes completely furnished. Think of what it would cost to have that much square footage, afloat or not, for $50K. I think we missed the deal of the century unless the photos were 10 years old, but the growth on the hull would lead me to believe they were current.
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I was joking about the laundry and A/C units in the window. I'm sure we've all been past an anchorage or an old commercial dock somewhere and there's an old Gibson or home made House boat with faded paint, putty on the decks, Laundry hanging from the rails and 3 Old dogs Barking at everyone passing by. I was just saying what a shame it would be to see such a pedigree Sportfish become nothing more than a beat up house boat. Now if someone maintains it Cosmetically and keeps all the systems working properly then you would have a Million Dollar Looking Boat for $100,000 and you could wow unsuspecting tourists from Red Oak, IA. Thats why I mentioned it would be one heck of an overbuilt house boat and would be kind of cool. Just to me it would be a shame to see such and great vessel not be used to it's potential. I can't believe it's come to a point with some of these boats that it cost more to fix them then they're worth. To take what was once a $1.5 Million dollar boat and say it's not worth fixing blows my mind. I can't seem to get a handle on it and I see it 1st hand, how did this happen?

On a lighter note, Obama's nominated for an Emmy. Seriously, "NOT a Joke". Laundry and Window Rattlers, "a JOKE", but not the Emmy Nomination. Maybe certain people are more worried about nonsense intead of working and building our economy can help explain why it's not worth fixing what was once a Million Dollar Yacht. I'm just saying.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/10/obama-may-win-emmy/

Anyway I hope who ever the new owner is has deep pocket and will bring her back the way he should and is able to enjoy owning a Hatteras Yacht.

Tony
 
saltshaker said:
Based on the listing I was under the impression that the parts were waiting to be installed.
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I was under the same impression until I called the broker. Let's just hope the buyer did the same, otherwise we may see this on eBay again if they thought they could flip the parts and only be into the boat for about $25K.
 
saltshaker said:
I have a question for the mechanics here. How to you do a complete overhaul and not know the crank is bad? Does the entire engine need to be redone inorder to fix it? Any of the major rebuild parts salvageable or do you start over? Based on the listing I was under the impression that the parts were waiting to be installed. I thought they ordered parts and started the top end when they discovered the crank was bad. If they essentially rebuilt the engine and now he dumped it do 50K the cost to fix it has to be significant. I looked at a boat that had a 12V92 rebuilt that had a bad crank. Mechanics bill for one engine well over 100K. I remember it being 120 or 130 but not sure. Either way it was a lot
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The 92's are prone to spinning mains when they get high hours. That is why the mains should be replaced when a inframe is done.

Most likely if the crank is bad, it is from a spun main. Most of the time when the main spins it trashes the block as well. No one I know of will reuse a block that has been trashed by a spun main on a high output marine engine.
My guess is the block are shot as well as the crank. $$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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The cranks areso long that when rebuilding and changing main bearing if not properly shimed thoes motor have the tendency to snap the crank within 200hrs of the rebuild.. if you have one that has made it 400hrs after a rebuild chances are you are gonna be allset.
 
Looks like they are more up front with this listing regarding the parts mentioned in the first one. My guess is the would be buyer walked when they found out they weren't really getting $50K in new parts.

I've never seen anybody ask for a $1,000 non-refundable deposit on an eBay auction before.
 
You cannot buy this without planning to rebuild both engines, and if you're planning to rebuild these, you should consider replacing them with new ones. DDEC's love to throw parts north of 1000 hours.

You can get that horsepower from smaller motors that will burn a little less fuel and hold together longer.
 
rtrafford said:
You cannot buy this without planning to rebuild both engines, and if you're planning to rebuild these, you should consider replacing them with new ones. DDEC's love to throw parts north of 1000 hours.

You can get that horsepower from smaller motors that will burn a little less fuel and hold together longer.
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You are correct to the tune of about 250000 + depending on engines new or rebuilt
 
Is it 3 or 4 staterooms?

How many people can I pick up on the trip home? I hear there's good money in that.

Will the other engine hold together if I never go faster than hull speed?
 
captddis said:
The answer is that if the crank is bad, most of the time on 92's it is from spun main bearings. When the mains spin they usually take out the block. Then you need to reblock it. $$$$$$$$$
No one that I know of will try to repair then alignbore HO marine engines.
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They disclosed in the first ad that the crank was bad, so that shouldn't have come as any surprise. Can those engines be pulled with a boom and out the back of the salon or does the hull have to be cut?
 
Freeebird said:
They disclosed in the first ad that the crank was bad, so that shouldn't have come as any surprise. Can those engines be pulled with a boom and out the back of the salon or does the hull have to be cut?
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you have to cut the deck and salon bulkhead to get them out.
 
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