1980 42' LRC - Anybody familiar with this boat?

[Finalee]

I've done the sail route for years. 6.5 knots tops , broad reach that rarely was in the exact direction I wanted to go. Many power boats / go fasts that went where pointed fast. A 34 trawler, rolly for sure but with the 120 Lehman 7 knots all day in any direction at 3 gph. The Hatt was the most fun. A 43 DC cruise 8 knots 8 gph. I always thought about the range. If I was going to Cruise the Islands an LRC would be on the top of my list. All around hits most points and has range.

 

[kjcampos]

After reading this thread, I probably should stop at Lowes today and buy a bag of rocks to throw at my 48 LRC.

Pete

not at all nothing wrong with the LRC we would have liked to buy the 58 LRC but at the time we bought it was out of our price range....they are great boats ...just the MY at the time was right for us and with the wide been the Admiral didn't want to here about a smaller boat....


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[kjcampos]

OK some of you MY folks need to come over to Skooch and take a little ride on a 58 LRC. And on the little Skooch 42' the ride was much more comfortable than on my 41 SF at the same speed. If you are going to go long and slow the LRC with Stabilizers is more comfortable. Range is better and just as much room as the same sized 42 MY.

The hull is flatter aft to keep it from squatting when over powered by the mighty 4-53s. But she would do 9 knots if you want to. 7.5 was best at just shy of 4 gallons an hour. Now you MY folks will say I get 7-8 knots and only burn 6-7 gallons an hour. And although I got fuel for 1.92 last month, try to think in percentages like 6 gallons per hour is 50% more than 4 gph. That will make a difference.

The Mark II 42 LRCs have a U-shaped galley which we liked. Ours was hull number one and had the fuel tanks along the keel keeping the weight low. Newer Mark II has saddle tanks which are easier to use.

Yes a 56 MY has more room than a 42 LRC. But 58' Big Skooch makes the 56 MY look like a little sister. Not sure where you folks got the idea the LRCs don't have as much room. My freind had 40 people on his 58 LRC for her birthday party in Miami. What no cockpit on the MY. I gotta tell ya the YF have too much boat tied up in too big a cockpit. We use are cockpit all the time to access floating docks and the usual swimming and grabbing the dog when he jumps in. Oh its essential for Man Overboard safety. Do the motor yachts has electrical access on the bow and stern? I don't think so. Do you have to deploy the heavy ladder all the time. We use our occasionally.

Also you might note that when the grand kids and their little dog are with us they sleep in a nice stateroom with head and shower while mom sleeps near buy in a large stateroom with head and shower while my wife and I sleep aft down a separate stair case away from the noise. This in contrast to the long dark companionway thru the galley, past the small engine rooms and staterooms to the master with a small double bed. The 58 LRC has a stand up full beam engine room in the middle with all the machinery. Galley UP. Our aft cabin has a real King sized bed. And a real pilot house with nearby day head and A/C. I gotta ask do any of the MY have day heads?

So lets talk about the speed. The LRCs can not do the MY's 14-15 knots. I gotta tell ya most MY 53s and 58s can't get up on plane at all with out a perfectly clean bottom and less stuff on board and full throttle. So if you go slow anyway? And in conclusion the LRCs go half the speed, but a better in many many other ways. IMHO

Thanks Pete. Don't throw rocks at you 48 LRC bring her down to our LRC rendezvous in St. Pete next month! If you go out at Beaufort NC its three days to Fort Peirce. Can a motor yacht do that, nope they can't.

David
Skooch
Beaufort SC

hi David hate to bust your bubble about the 56"MY being a little sister to the 58'LRC but last summer we where docked next to a 58' LRC and we were no where near the little sister... we r both wide beams and yes you do have the cock pit so your inside living space is just as big if not smaller as the 56' MY and all my guests have their own head with a shower and we may not have a full beam engine room but it is a STAND UP engine rooms and with the 58' LRC you have a galley up which makes the salon much smaller....there are pro and cons to both boats ...oh yes and our master cabin actually has an oversize KING WALK AROUND bed.....


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[Walter P]

While I tend to agree that the LRC's are great sea boats and have a much longer range than similar sized MY's, I like the openness of the MY for my purposes. If my need was for a boat that can cruise from NC to Bermuda I obviously would need the range of an LRC. Probably very few LRC's ever do extended non stop trips that require the fuel capacity that they hold. It's like many folks who "need" a SUV with 4 wheel drive but never drive off the road or in snow. Whatever jingles your chain is best for each of us.

I have a 1982 Series I 48' MY (like bobk) and at slow displacement speeds my fuel consumption is pretty close to a similiar size LRC. My advantage is that if I need to kick it up to beat a storm to an inlet, I can do it. BTW the hull configuration (running surfaces) of the Series I 48 MY is very similar to the LRC with "soft" chines for the first two thirds followed by "hard" chines for the aft third. It's a great combination as Bobk can attest. He puts around 3000 miles per year on his and his fuel consumption rate is great. I know because not only does he say so but I have crewed with him on a trip from the Chesapeake to Port St. Lucie, FL and was impressed with it's performance.

Comparing interior layouts is more difficult to discuss. Many like lots of small spaces provided by the LRC's and others like me prefer the openness of a MY.

In any case, all of our Hatts are great boats. Better layout is a matter of use. The convertibles are much better for fishing but not as roomy as an LRC or MY.

Walt

 

[kjcampos]

our boat has 1020 gal. of fuel ...we topped off at Morehead City Yacht Basin where we bought our boat and moved south in the AICW most of the way... just outside from Charleston SC to Savannah GA then back on AICW to the New River into Jacksonville FL and then back onto the AICW to ST. Augustine FL to Rivers Edge Marina where we fueled up again and our boat took 750 Gal. which left us around 250 Gal. in our tanks ...not a bad run ....i guess if we were making a straight run somewhere we could probably make better milage....but we were very happy with our fuel burn...


Joe
!981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[Walter P]

Excellent performance Joe, but the point is you couldn't make it across from NC to Bermuda and an LRC could. Other than that I prefer the MY.

Walt

 

[rtrafford]

Excellent performance Joe, but the point is you couldn't make it across from NC to Bermuda and an LRC could. Other than that I prefer the MY.

Walt

Walt, isn't that trip less than 700 miles?

 

[rsmith]

I was in Spanish a few years ago and several sport fish were running up there for a tournament.

 

[rsmith]

590 from Matrhas vineyard Bermuda is a group of low-forming volcanoes located in the Atlantic Ocean, near the western edge of the Sargasso Sea, roughly 650 nautical miles (1,070 km (665 mi)) east-southeast of Cape Hatteras on the Outer Banks of North Carolina and about 590 nautical miles (1,100 km (684 mi)) southeast of Martha's Vineyard of ...
‎Bermuda Triangle - ‎Hamilton, Bermuda - ‎Cape Hatteras - ‎Bermuda shorts

 

[Walter P]

Joe, While you might have the necessary fuel, I think the LRC of your size range carries quite a bit more and although our MY's are pretty efficient they are not quite as efficient as an LRC of your size range. Don't get me wrong, I prefer the MY's and I absolutely love the 56 or the 53 or the 58 MY's but if I were planning to make a long offshore trip and given a choice of boats, my choice hands down would be the LRC. Just as I would not want to visit my fishing friends at the canyons 100 miles off NJ with my MY although it would probably make it, it was not designed for that kind of use, which is why Hatteras also made and still makes outstanding Convertibles. A close friend had a 46 C and he was wheelchair bound so whenever we went out on his boat I drove. There is no comparison with the convertibles to the motor yachts. The convertibles tracked like they were on rails and instilled a comfort level unmatched in offshore conditions.

The first thing I tell anyone who asks me for advice on what boat to buy, is what do you plan to do with it.

Walt

 

[kjcampos]

Excellent performance Joe, but the point is you couldn't make it across from NC to Bermuda and an LRC could. Other than that I prefer the MY.

Walt

walt funny you should say that .....me and the Admiral have been contemplating if we could make BERMUDA.....but i would not try it alone and not with out a fuel bladder don't want to be adrift in the Atlantic...by the way i have a friend with a 53' MY that has 1200 gal. fuel tanks....in jealous....lol


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[Pete]

Joe, where does your friend with the 53 MY store the extra 500 gallons of fuel on board. The max offered by the factory was in the extended deckhouse version at 700 gallons. Also, how deep is the draft with the extra 3500 lbs. BTW if your friend has the earlier version with the large aft deck, add another 150 gallons and 1000 lbs. to that question.

Pete

 

[dastahl]

not at all nothing wrong with the LRC we would have liked to buy the 58 LRC but at the time we bought it was out of our price range....they are great boats ...just the MY at the time was right for us and with the wide been the Admiral didn't want to here about a smaller boat....

Joe your boat is a great boat. I may be wrong about the cabin space, sorry. And BobK and others the 48 MY series I boats do have hull shapes very similar to the LRCs and are great boats as well.
I think this discussion has shown there are a few differences in between the MY and the LRCs. The way we use our boat I am happy with the LRC.

You Hatteras guys can see the downside of the LRCs. Skooch's draft is too much for an uneventful ride down the ICW, we've learned tons about the tides. And she is too bog for a lot of marinas. We're going to the Keys this winter but we have huge restriction with draft.

We use the extended range or at least the capacity. Yesterday I topped off with 800 gallons of fuel for $1.44 all taxes in. I did not need fuel but $1.44? We hold 2400 gallons. And we have skipped the ICW a few times and have run from Florida to Beaufort offshore. Its two over-nights. When we go to the Bahamas we do not get fuel. I'm not going to buy fuel in Florida this winter.

A few days ago I was getting really tired and would have loved to do 20 knots. Especially pushing against a knot of current. There are always compromises with boats and generally with life.
Skooch
Fernandina Beach FL

 

[kjcampos]

Joe, where does your friend with the 53 MY store the extra 500 gallons of fuel on board. The max offered by the factory was in the extended deckhouse version at 700 gallons. Also, how deep is the draft with the extra 3500 lbs. BTW if your friend has the earlier version with the large aft deck, add another 150 gallons and 1000 lbs. to that question.

Pete

hi Pete ...my friend has a 1977 53' MY when he bought it the previous owner had added a 500 gal. fuel tank in the generator room...soon as u open the hatch it is to aft ...his draft is 5' when he he is full he loves having the extra capacity for when he is doing long travels....he is now in the Bahamas and I'm still tied to the dock finishing my refit.....


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[kjcampos]

not at all nothing wrong with the LRC we would have liked to buy the 58 LRC but at the time we bought it was out of our price range....they are great boats ...just the MY at the time was right for us and with the wide been the Admiral didn't want to here about a smaller boat....

Joe your boat is a great boat. I may be wrong about the cabin space, sorry. And BobK and others the 48 MY series I boats do have hull shapes very similar to the LRCs and are great boats as well.
I think this discussion has shown there are a few differences in between the MY and the LRCs. The way we use our boat I am happy with the LRC.

You Hatteras guys can see the downside of the LRCs. Skooch's draft is too much for an uneventful ride down the ICW, we've learned tons about the tides. And she is too bog for a lot of marinas. We're going to the Keys this winter but we have huge restriction with draft.

We use the extended range or at least the capacity. Yesterday I topped off with 800 gallons of fuel for $1.44 all taxes in. I did not need fuel but $1.44? We hold 2400 gallons. And we have skipped the ICW a few times and have run from Florida to Beaufort offshore. Its two over-nights. When we go to the Bahamas we do not get fuel. I'm not going to buy fuel in Florida this winter.

A few days ago I was getting really tired and would have loved to do 20 knots. Especially pushing against a knot of current. There are always compromises with boats and generally with life.
Skooch
Fernandina Beach FL

hi Skooch....where did you get fuel for $1.44???
cheapest i have seen is Ballard Oil in Fort Myers Beach $1.899 next to the Key West Express


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[Pete]

Joe, very interesting. Since the boat is a 77 model it came with 550 gallons of fuel tankage. So the additional tankage must be 650 gallons and weigh in at over 4500 lbs when full. I would be very interested in seeing the boat sitting still with that load on board. Just two thoughts, likely sits bow down, way down, and no chance ever of getting on plane. Just my thoughts.

Pete

 

[Pete]

On the subject of the 48 MY with a dual mode hull. Those boats were offered with 671N and 6V92 turbos depending on what the owner wanted, a displacement cruiser or a planning cruiser. In this thread it has been mentioned a couple of times that the bottom contour of the 48MY is very similar to the 48 LRC. Having a 48 LRC that spent one recent winter in the paint shed, I had a lot of time to examine in detail the bottom contour of my LRC. There is no way, no how this hull will plane, even with many times the horsepower it has. Thus my question, will someone familiar with the 48 dual mode hull bottom contour describe the shape in some detail? Thanks

Pete

 

[kjcampos]

Joe, very interesting. Since the boat is a 77 model it came with 550 gallons of fuel tankage. So the additional tankage must be 650 gallons and weigh in at over 4500 lbs when full. I would be very interested in seeing the boat sitting still with that load on board. Just two thoughts, likely sits bow down, way down, and no chance ever of getting on plane. Just my thoughts.

Pete

hi Pete ...i have seen his boat on plane i can't say if he had all his fuel tanks full ....i no that he went to the Bahamas this month completely full and he did say his bow was heavy....i know for a fact that the extra fuel tank is only 500 gal. but i thought he told me he held in his regular tanks 700 gal. i could be wrong...i have shot him an email to ask....


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II

 

[bobk]

On the subject of the 48 MY with a dual mode hull. Those boats were offered with 671N and 6V92 turbos depending on what the owner wanted, a displacement cruiser or a planning cruiser. In this thread it has been mentioned a couple of times that the bottom contour of the 48MY is very similar to the 48 LRC. Having a 48 LRC that spent one recent winter in the paint shed, I had a lot of time to examine in detail the bottom contour of my LRC. There is no way, no how this hull will plane, even with many times the horsepower it has. Thus my question, will someone familiar with the 48 dual mode hull bottom contour describe the shape in some detail? Thanks

Pete

The 48 Series I MY (dual mode hull) has a soft entry like a trawler and no chine that could assist lift and planning. About 2/3 the way aft, it becomes a more typical hard chine. With 671N's it can reach 10, maybe 11 knots. Mine has 6V92 TA's at 425 HP, and it will make 18 knots with a clean bottom and cruise 15 kt at 2000 rpm. In my case, I'm more typically at 1000-1025 rpm for 8-8.3 knots and sometimes if the mood strikes, I'll run 1100-1150 for 9 knots. Walt has the 525 HP version and can get a couple more knots.





As an aside to your question, I push it up on plane every 20 hours or so and the smoke usually clears by the time it is on plane. I had to have one rebuilt after a couple thousand hours of this kind of running and there was no issue with rings or valves.

I hope this is sufficient detail.

Bobk

 

[kjcampos]

Joe, very interesting. Since the boat is a 77 model it came with 550 gallons of fuel tankage. So the additional tankage must be 650 gallons and weigh in at over 4500 lbs when full. I would be very interested in seeing the boat sitting still with that load on board. Just two thoughts, likely sits bow down, way down, and no chance ever of getting on plane. Just my thoughts.

Pete

hi Pete you are right my friend said 550 gal. in his regular tanks....i don't know where i got that 700 gal. from....


Joe
1981 56' MY
Lake Gloria II