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1976*Hatteras 58 Long Range Cruiser in Ft. Lauderdale, FL

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Are you working with a buyers broker? He/she should be able to get the straight information.

Bobk
 
Wow 6000 hours at that price. The rest of the boat would have to be perfect. John
 
Properly operated and maintained, those engines should be good for 12 - 15 thousand hours without major trouble. The Onans, they are a different story.
 
I don't think 6K on 4-71s is that big deal, if they survey well. As far as the decor, either you like it, or you don't.
 
People that do tile counters and tables with huge grout channels must not cook or eat often?!??? It's impossible to get them clean and all the food particles out.
 
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People that do tile counters and tables with huge grout channels must not cook or eat often?!??? It's impossible to get them clean and all the food particles out.
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My wife does not like the tile counter and tables either, same reason as you stated about cleaning and getting the food particles out of them. We do eat in a lot and like to have friends and family for meals or to stay over. So they would have to go, this is something should we decide to buy we will have to take into consideration in our offer.

I understand what everyone is saying about the 4-71s with 6000 hours and if maintain they should be okay. I am still leery of those hours and will have a complete analysis of them done if we decide to buy her. I'd also want a long sea trail to test the engines under all kind of conditions.

I like the interior but the wife has some qualms about it, but as she said and a lot of other people have said there is no such thing as a perfect boat.

Please keep your comments coming they are appreciated. We are considering to go to Fort Lauderdale to take a look at her.
 
Those motors can be rebuilt for what, like $3,000 in parts each? Labor wouldn't be much as hours would be lower due to easy access and no turbos etc. LRC's are nice, but the premium they demand requires you to join a cult first.
 
First question would be why is one engine 10 hp higher than the other.

Now keep in mind that the 58 lrc is not a rare boat. They made almost 50 of them. When they come up for sale they command a good price. If this one needs work and price reflects that you should look at the options. Although a recent refit is nice if you do it yourself you get to pick the colors.

I think the 58 and 65 lrc's have a cult following because they are so overbuilt. The engines should get 10k or more hours between rebuilds. The shafts and props are huge. If you want that kind of boat it's a great option.


Just in case yu were wondering. Repowering is not that big a deal but theres no way to get them on plane.
 
Beautiful yacht. 6000 hours Hummmmm?
 
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This Hatteras has been for sale for a long time. I would count on rebuilds on the engines. I don't care what anybody says . The hours plus PLUS the age of the engines sounds like a rebuild. That's why it hasn't sold. Best of luck.
 
When buying any boat, the question is what are you going to use the boat for? Where are you going to go with it?

For years, my wife and I owned sailboats. We did lots of ocean sailing and coastal cruising. We were traveling to many places and most of the time we were motoring or motor sailing. No surprise that we are power boaters now!

I was always amused when I would see folks with tricked out, heavily built for the ocean sailboats that never went anywhere. Same with heavily over-built power boats carrying thousands of gallons of fuel capacity. Do you need to carry so much fuel? Are you seriously planning on crossing oceans or are you going to run up and down the coast, Bahamas, Great Circle, ICW etc...near lots of land and protection. We want stuff but what do we really need?

Byresch, I do not know a thing about you or what your experience is. Forgive me!

We recently purchased a 43' DCFB with 6-71 N's and had a separate mechanical survey done on the engines. We also had compression checks on each cylinder and an oil analysis on the engines and transmissions. I believe that was money well spent.

I would find a good broker (with lots of experience) who is willing to be honest with you.

Jonathan
 
There is a very well done 58 LRC up in this area which has had several well-heeled owners; it has changed hands a few times. Each owner has invested a lot in her, and used her for a while, and then sold her.

These are a LOT of boat- the engines are probably the smallest and simplest system on them. They take up perhaps 2x the volume of a 58MY. There is a lot to maintain and keep clean etc. I suspect most of them do not get used for the sort of blue-water sailing that they were made to do. That's fine- anyone can use their boat how they choose- but I do think, as Jon implied, that the owners spend a lot of money keeping them up. They will not fit in any covered slip I've ever seen on the Bay, so they are always outdoors.

If you are going to live aboard and cruise a lot, maybe this is the boat for you. But, like I said, there's a lot of real estate to keep up in one of these.
 
Byresch said:
My wife does not like the tile counter and tables either, same reason as you stated about cleaning and getting the food particles out of them. We do eat in a lot and like to have friends and family for meals or to stay over. So they would have to go, this is something should we decide to buy we will have to take into consideration in our offer.

I understand what everyone is saying about the 4-71s with 6000 hours and if maintain they should be okay. I am still leery of those hours and will have a complete analysis of them done if we decide to buy her. I'd also want a long sea trail to test the engines under all kind of conditions.

I like the interior but the wife has some qualms about it, but as she said and a lot of other people have said there is no such thing as a perfect boat.

Please keep your comments coming they are appreciated. We are considering to go to Fort Lauderdale to take a look at her.
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Why not wait a few weeks and look at her in conjunction with the Miami show that's just down the road a ways?

You are sure to see some other boats at the brokerage show on Collins that will give you some ideas. In fact, you may want to check and see if that LRC is going to be on display down there.

As for the boat not having been sold due to the engine hours, I rather doubt that is the case. There are lots of reasons people would pass on that boat which would have nothing to do with anything being "wrong" with it. Could be it's just "wrong" for a lot of reasons, some of which have already been discussed. I for one can't imagine being tied to cruising at such a slow pace with no ability to pick it up when necessary. Now if I were breaking ice with it, that would be a whole other story.

I will say this, for that kind of money, you can find a lot of options which may suit your needs better unless you just want to be part of the LRC cult.
 
Several questions have been raised about my background. I have owned a 42 foot houseboat, a 42 foot Junneau sailboat, a 45 foot Columbia motor sailor, and a 48 foot Chris Craft Roamer. I have an extensive background but I do like to ask for advice when making a huge decision like this. I also like the 53 and 58 Motoryachts but like the LRC for the sea going ability. I have made a few long trips and always liked knowing the boat had what it takes to get home.

Our plan is to cruise the Caribbean from island to island. I know this boat has the range and ability to do that, not sure if the 53 or 58 has the range or capability to accomplish the task. If they do it would be a much cheaper avenue and would still give us a great boat.

We have lived aboard all the boats we owned but are currently land locked and I hate it. I love living on a boat and miss it.

I do not mind going slow, I have owned sailboats and never minded the slow pace of them. My Roamer topped out at 10 knots so I am used to power boats that go slow. I have a friend who has a 53 and was with him when he got it to plane and watched his fuel gauge move very fast. Slow and steady is for me.

I have always like the quality of Hatteras and love the flush deck look on a boat. I am not a fan of the current European look of a lot of new yachts so prefer to purchase an older boat that I like.
 
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I am nearby. I'd love to take a look. Frank Gordon is a reputable guy. $329 Ask seems like a reasonable ask even for a tired 58LRC. You can always rebuild for peace of mind...in this case it's the actual condition of the rest of this boat that matters. You are right...the 53s and 58 Hatteras's may not provide the range you are looking for. Lots to consider...but don't rule out traditional Motor Yachts for lower purchase and upkeep costs.
 
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I have found a LRC that I am interested in, but prior to committing to going there to look at her I'd like to find someone that will take a look at her and let me know if it is worth going to look at. I'd appreciate any recommendations on a surveyor or qualified person to look at her.

This is the boat: http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/197.../Ft.-Lauderdale/FL/United-States#.WHhSkxsrLcc
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Wish I were in a position, I would get her. Let me know if you do, would love to stay in touch to see how you like it. 58 LRC is on my short list when ready.

Good luck!

Scott & Malina
 
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I am nearby. I'd love to take a look. Frank Gordon is a reputable guy. $329 Ask seems like a reasonable ask even for a tired 58LRC. You can always rebuild for peace of mind...in this case it's the actual condition of the rest of this boat that matters. You are right...the 53s and 58 Hatteras's may not provide the range you are looking for. Lots to consider...but don't rule out traditional Motor Yachts for lower purchase and upkeep costs.
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I am not ruling anything out until we purchase. I'd appreciate if you would take a look at her, of course if you are like me you will do anything to look at boats. Thanks in advance.
 
I'll be in Lauderdale tomorrow or Thursday. I'll report back.
 
Hi BYRESH. I looked at the 58 LRC in Lauderdale today. Just a 30 minute look-see. All in all I give her a 5. Way above the "average condition" for a boat that came out of long term use in the Caribbean...
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According to the guy who has maintained her for several years The engine hours are now at 7,000...but still original without rebuild, which leads me to believe she has been somewhat mechanically maintained and not pushed too hard over the past 40 years. There could still be some life in them. (I said SOME). Only a good engine surveyor will know for sure. (besides, rebuilding these power plants is half the cost of any other application). The exterior was repainted less than 2 years ago (in Guatemala)...not perfect but not too bad either. Overall exterior rates as OK. All of the exterior bright work needed refinishing yesterday. Handrail varnish was cracking off. I was surprised that the window frames still seemed in reasonable shape. I found the teak deck overlay not quite right.
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It looks as though improvements to the electrical systems have been updated somewhat along the way. Newer appliances in the galley. Updated lighting. Usable electronics. Plusses and Minuses throughout. (Hence the 5 overall). Where I thought this boat really fell down was inside. The equatorial sun has done a number on the Plexiglas both on the fly bridge windshield and the curved windshield pieces at the lower helm.
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Everything "inside" the boat is old. Carpet, Drapes, Mattresses.. all of it! If your "Admiral" is a whiz at decorating. This boat is a blank canvass. ...Which is reflected in the asking price. Headliners are OK...but the rest of the interior soft goods are due for replacement.
 
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