1965 41dc, 1974 58TC

[Sparky1]

Re: 1965 41dc, 1974 58dc

No problem whatsoever with you posting a picture of my 58. Just for clarification, it's located just outside Chattanooga, TN where I brough it back from Florida via Bay Point Marina in Panama City, FL.

I'm back in the office now, so I'll shoot you a PM.

 

[Silverado6x6]

Re: 1965 41dc, 1974 58dc

My two yard workers are trying to kill me, I clocked in at 4am today and started doing some finish work on this 28' gillnet boat in my shop, the shop is huge, I could a couple of years ago park 6 concrete mixers in it and two loaders, its a bit more cramped now but anyway our weather took a minor cold snap and it was 0 degrees F this morning, my big 500,000btu forced air furnace has a burnt spot on the fins and it blows carbon monoxide into the shop so I shut it down last year.

Back in 1996 I put in a radiant heat floor before we had a concrete floor, well it took until last year for me to finally get the boiler room built and get it running, the whole kitten n kaboodle was built by me and it works fine even when its -45, because its not really cold cold I have it set low so the shop temp is about 74, usually I prefer 60 degrees because with the thermal underwear and such its too uncomfortable working if its too warm, flip side is here I am doing a ton of fiberglass grinding and take my word wearing thermal and glass don't mix so I just work in my tee shirt, well along comes 8am and they come in and immediately open the big overhead door and turn on all the exhaust fans, they don't like the smell of vinylester resin I guess, immediate its like 30 degrees and I'm in a tee shirt well I don't like wearing my good thermals and getting resin all over them so I called it an early day at 10am and so I am back on the forums, spent the last couple of hours going over the history of Freebird, that poor boat is screaming in silent pain you know Sparky.

My god does it still have that 70's disco interior?

 

[Silverado6x6]

Re: 1965 41dc, 1974 58dc

I just thought I would dig up some pics of the 58TC in its original sales brochure, not bad, I would have a ton of LED lights and some laminate flooring oh and a rock something like granite/epoxy or marlble countertop.

 

[Sparky1]

Re: 1965 41dc, 1974 58dc

Sent you a PM.

 

[Sparky1]

Re: 1965 41dc, 1974 58dc

Just a note for those of you who can't pay cash or borrow against an older boat. I will offer owner financing at competitive rates for those who are qualified.

In addition, I will consider smaller boat trades as well as trades for RV's or automobiles. Have a boat even bigger/better/newer than my 58TC? I will consider a two for one trade, possibly a two for one trade plus cash. My primary goal is to once again be a one boat owner as opposed to just getting out of boating.

 

[Silverado6x6]

Hey Sparky long time no posts on Freebird, care to share any news?

 

[Sparky1]

Nothing new, and I've never heard anything back from the mechanic so many recommended. I'm sure he's busy, but it's always nice to have someone acknowledge they've recieved the email they requested.

Outside that, both boats are very much for sale, and I'll listen to anything reasonable. Hell, I'll listen to anything unreasonable... within reason of course.

 

[krush]

I'll give ya $5,000 and some other things I have of value: makarov, RC helicopter, couple p64 guns, and my truck.....well my truck ain't worth much but it has new michelins on it, so how about I just throw in the tires and keep the truck?

 

[Silverado6x6]

I wish I could just hop on a jet and fly down to look Freebird over, this economy has everything screwed up, I'm laid off from my job until spring, you know I manage a concrete batch plant and also I drive a concrete mixer.
Day before yesterday I went to work to check on the boilers and also to unbury an '89 Subaru that I had re-engined for my wife bu then bought her a new SUV in 2004, after 3 years the tires were low, a small coolant leak drained the engine and the battery died, it was buried in a snowbank, I put a new battery in it, topped off the coolant and threw some gas with some gas-drier in it and it fired right up.
I drive a 2002 Silverado 3500 dually with a 496cid gas motor that just drinks up gas, getting the Subaru back on the road now means I won't be limited to searching for work locally, I can get a union job at $26 an hour driving a concrete mixer out of Anchorage, I may do that instead of drawing unemployment for the next three months.

Randy I really would hate to pass this opportunity up, honestly I can get $5,000 in 24 hours, I could sell some guns, heck I have 13 of them including two AR15's and a nice Springfield Armory M1A in .308 (M14).

A friend of mine has repeatedly wanted me to fly down to I think its called St. Martin someplace in the Caribbean where he owns a concrete block making plant and wants me to rebuild everything for him, I may take him up on that, it would be several grand for a week or so of work expenses paid.

Its this darn stupid economy, you just don't know how long you have to wait until things pick up and I am just sitting at home watching TV working in my hobby room building models, I have hundreds I have built from a 5 foot long submarine, diesel trucks, lots of boats, a good size collection of pricey brass HO trains and a diecast Corvette and NASCAR car collection.

Randy I feel you have an opportunity here that is being offered to me by a power way above us however I am 52 and not quite so willing to take gambles like I used to years ago, but then again I also have a relative amount of financial security to fall back upon being that I own most everything at home with little in the ways of monthly bills.

I would not want to be just a person to come along and fix the problems, I am a master at that, they call me the McGuyver working at The Junkyard Wars around here. My bank would give me a loan for a higher amount possibly, I did ask earlier this year when I almost got into getting that 41' hat down in Key West that the guy wanted $25k for.

Well thats my story, sounds like I'm just a tirekicker to you I suppose, well you do have what I want so lets see how far I'm willing to risk getting what I want and dammed be this this recession, I'll work on something realistic, at least the interest rates are low right now on loans, its just getting a stable income going again when I usually year after year don't have any this time of year because I am a seasonal worker, I just take three month vacations.

Otherwise I wish you a Happy New Year!

 

[ThirdHatt]

Silverado, I think you have a great plan and as Randy said he's ready to listen to anything and owner finance for those who qualify. I can just see it now....after a few numbers and terms are ironed out between you two, you'll get down to Tennessee and get that 12V71 back together, then shortly thereafter begins the next Maiden Voyage for ole Freebird down to St. Martin! I'm sure Randy would not miss that trip for the world so you'll have crew to help take your new boat (Caribbean Condo) to your new job.

What FUN! Now you guys hammer out the details so we can all watch and enjoy! KEEP US POSTED!

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

 

[Silverado6x6]

I know what he wanted a while back, I don't know what he has to have up front and I won't make a piss poor poor boy offer, I already tried begging for a free boat, funny thing is I see them a lot on Craigslist, there was I think a 34' sailboat in Hawaii a few weeks ago that somebody was literally giving away not too mention the the hurricane damaged ones down in the Houston area.

See I'm stuck in Alaska and so far to me its a lot safer living here than the lower 48 right now jobwise, I have some unique skills like driving a concrete mixer for 13 years in addition to being a master mechanic. If I were to offer anything it would be no less than total payment and transfer, then I will consider what needs to be done in priority and how to manage my time on the boat, I have been desperately seeking a warmer climate for 4-6 months during the winter to unwind from my seasonal job up here. I'm not ready to retire but yet I am getting tired of actually not working during my off season period in the winter. I have never been to Tennesee, from what I do see is that where he is he has little to fear in the way of hurricanes, thats been a problem as far as me buying a boat, there are too few here in Alaska and they are too expensive, Florida is obviously the place to buy its not being there during the summer that bothers me in case a storm does come through, so Freebird is right now for what it is a very attractive situation for me, it needs some expensive work which I absolutely know how to do with no guesswork and its in a prime location for when I'm not around. If I was back on my normal work hours I would offer something like $10K down, $1000 a month for say 60 months, but thats just thinking out loud.

 

[ThirdHatt]

I know what he wanted a while back, I don't know what he has to have up front and I won't make a piss poor poor boy offer, I already tried begging for a free boat, funny thing is I see them a lot on Craigslist, there was I think a 34' sailboat in Hawaii a few weeks ago that somebody was literally giving away not too mention the the hurricane damaged ones down in the Houston area.

See I'm stuck in Alaska and so far to me its a lot safer living here than the lower 48 right now jobwise, I have some unique skills like driving a concrete mixer for 13 years in addition to being a master mechanic. If I were to offer anything it would be no less than total payment and transfer, then I will consider what needs to be done in priority and how to manage my time on the boat, I have been desperately seeking a warmer climate for 4-6 months during the winter to unwind from my seasonal job up here. I'm not ready to retire but yet I am getting tired of actually not working during my off season period in the winter. I have never been to Tennesee, from what I do see is that where he is he has little to fear in the way of hurricanes, thats been a problem as far as me buying a boat, there are too few here in Alaska and they are too expensive, Florida is obviously the place to buy its not being there during the summer that bothers me in case a storm does come through, so Freebird is right now for what it is a very attractive situation for me, it needs some expensive work which I absolutely know how to do with no guesswork and its in a prime location for when I'm not around. If I was back on my normal work hours I would offer something like $10K down, $1000 a month for say 60 months, but thats just thinking out loud.

I figured you would use your time off to make the big move south! Confirm the job opportunity in St. Martin then hammer out an owner finance deal with Randy for Freebird, something like your $10k down up front and $1k/month for "X" number of months. Payments to begin 30 days after he helps you get the boat to your new job. Randy would feel good with some cash in pocket and knowing that you would be down to fix the engine immediately at your expense. Then you both run Freebird down to St. Martin (with HOF crew changes along the way, of course) and your new job/lifestyle and boat (Caribbean Condo) payments go into effect. Randy gets to fly home with another maiden voyage under his belt and the resssurance of knowing he has one Hatteras that he can focus on and enjoy and some cash showing up every month for many months.

BIG FUN!

 

[Silverado6x6]

that job in the Caribbean would not take more than a couple of weeks unless I had a parts availability problem.
We have where I work in Wasilla, Alaska a Stearns concrete block plant built in the mid 40's, I have over the last 13 years modified it to use smaller more efficient 480v 3phase motors, replaced critical wear points like in the stampers and mold boxes with new manganese wear plates, and last spring removed about 36 original bronze bushings on the guide rods with new ones that I had to cut to fit each to match the new 2" guide rods, replaced all the seals which in itself was a challenge because there were only 24 available and no more than a couple at any NAPA store in the US so I used some axle seals with a double lip and wrapped two turns of aluminum tape around each of them because they wer something like .040 undersized, took me about a month but would have been only a week if I worked on it only and not having to do other things like drive a mixer truck.
The owner who is a close friend of my employer lives here in Alaska and still owns that plant south and basically needs the same work done, at best I figure a weeks work and a $2500 labor bill at a general labor charge of $60 an hour, thats my going rate if I accept outside work.

I usually don't, I barely can keep ahead of a fleet of 10 concrete mixers, 2 loaders, 4 forklifts, two Peterbilt tractors and trailers, a boom truck, a wet batch concrete plant and having to drive delivery of concrete, I am the one man show of all of it, no mechanics helpers, I do it all.

And every spring I have to weed out new drivers and supervise training them to operate a mixer truck, most can barely drive one, mixer drivers are scarce here in Alaska.

 

[ThirdHatt]

that job in the Caribbean would not take more than a couple of weeks unless I had a parts availability problem.QUOTE]

OH, I completely misunderstood. I thought you were looking to move south, and even had a job in St. Martin awaiting your acceptance. Sorry about that! I just took the ball and ran with it. Sounded like a dream come true for everyone involved, but unfortunately not in the cards. Oh well!

 

[Silverado6x6]

Yes its just someone that saw my work here on almost identical equipment and with obvious success, they now want me to travel there and do the same thing kinda like Randy's problem finding a DD mechanic, perhaps another Hat owner just had some engine work done and can pass on the word of a job well done.

 

[Sparky1]

Sorry to be late to this particular party but I've been out of town.

Silverado, we've talked about options including my flying you down here. I'm a gun guy, so we can talk trade. Ball's in your court Bubba as this ole' bird has one too many nests. Hell, you'd only have to change the last three letters in the old gal's name to have your Freeboat.

I'm always up for a boat ride, so I'll help you take the boat anywhere you want it to go. One engine or two, makes no difference to me. I hear you on the 50+ and not knowing what to do when you grow up. You only go around once, unless of course you get lost. Then you just keep on going and going and going and...

 

[Silverado6x6]

I posted on your other thread about doing repair work, I have 13 high end rifles and almost as many handguns and with the US taking a nosedive I think I may need them for either home defense or barter, luckily my home and 8 acres is all paid for. Theres a possibility I may try for a mortgage being that the rates are the lowest in about 37 years and it would give me some working capitol to fix the engine and buy the boat, but I want to see if Obama gets ousted first, I've been monitoring some efforts of that sort lately and if it shows fruits its anybodies guess what may happen with too many people thinking he is their messiah. Are you sure you want to give up the 41 to support the 58? I don't know if thats what I would do, me I would repower the 58 with the most modern engines I can steal, literally, there is always something afloat or almost afloat such as a salvaged yacht with all the superstructure burned, I saw one earlier this year for sale. I do a lot of engine transplant work all the time, mostly I fabricate everything from the motormounts to bellhousing adapters, you should see the Hercules 6cyl. diesel I married up to a Clark 5sp from a schoolbus and put it in a 20,000lb. Gerlinger forklift. Not to also removing older Detroits from our trucks and installing Cummins, I have a whole yard full of diesels though regretfully I did sell the 12v71 years ago, it came out of a Chevy Astro.

 

[Sparky1]

I do hope you're talking about a GMC Astro as in a COE road tractor (drove a few of those in my day) as opposed to a Chevy Astro van. Never saw a 12V71 in either, but the latter would be interesting for sure.

 

[Silverado6x6]

Yes it was a COE tractor, Lost oil pressure on it and lost the crankshaft, too expensive to reapair so I swapped in a Cummins, basically the same length of the Detroit, I did it around 1997.
I still have it with the replaced 400 Cummins in it in our back lot, the tractor had too many other problems and i started to part it out, I pulled the drivers and trans for other trucks.
It was not difficult putting in the Cummins, only parts that needed creative fabrication was the coolant lines, exhaust and intake pipes, another truck I did a swap of a Detroit to a Cummins I had to lengthen the hood and move the radiator forward.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Hey Silverado, you'll like this one. We put a 400 Cummins in a Hough 100 loader many years ago. It was a screamer after getting rid of that International and putting in the Cummins. We still have it too. It's a backup loader now, but it still runs great. You really get a sense of satisfaction when a conversion works out well.