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  1. OWNER - I own a Hatteras Yacht
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67' COCKPIT MY (1987 - 1995)
I can work from my boat and be anywhere on the east coast. But I do have to be able to travel on short notice and leave the boat behind. Family and friends can't be relied upon for that duty. So I am considering a full time captain/mate in order to allow me to campaign the boat in the Bahamas and northward (either NY or Nashville) during Hurricane season.

What should I be considering in terms of hiring qualifications, cost, terms, living arrangements and general employee expectations for hiring crew on a monthly basis for this general mission?

Bruce

Freestyle
1986 62 CPMY (54MY with ext)
Tampa
 
When I hired a Captain for a three week cruise I paid him $500 a day, $300 for the mate, all meals provided and gave him the VIP suite and the mate the crew quarters. Both of them had thousand of hours behind the helm and their Captain's license.
 
On a long term basis (at least 6 + months), you re probably looking at $6000 to $7000 a month for an experienced and qualified captain. Benefits like health insurance a plus to attract qualified captains. If the boat has a home base where you spend most of the time then the captain can live ashore in his own place. On trips he’ll need a stateroom obviously….

I don’t think you need a full time mate on a 62 footer. Years ago when I started I used to run a 70’ usually solo incl many trips from Miami to Nantucket. Having two full time crew on a boat that small is going to be uncomfortable and cramped.

As to qualifications you need a guy (or gal or …) with at least a 100T master and experience on boats in that size range as a captain. Beware of freshly licensed captains who ve accumulated their sea time as mates.
 
I can maintain your boat here in Nashville for you. We also have a couple local Captains that can run the boat for you on the moves that have tons of Hatt Experience. Good luck
 
Wow, baby captains don't make much money!
 
I might be your huckleberry.
 
I'll vouch for Freebird, but only if you've got one busted engine and an impossible distance to travel that no sane captain would attempt. Freebird will get 'er done.
 
I'd love to do that after I retire....be on call to go help a boat in a pinch. I'd be a lot more likely to take an extended trip now if I had someone to call, if I had to fly back for work or something.

BUT, I've always had a sportfish. The visibility in a MY is a different ball game. I might need to get a yachtfish one day to become practiced in the ways of not hitting the dock when you can't see the stern!
 
Thank you all for the input.

I think I need a young mate that needs hours. I am a Navy SWO and enjoy navigating, piloting and know how to do these things the 'old way' but enjoy electronics and autopilot too. A bad ejection seat ride and subsequent fused vertebrae leave me in need for help lifting things. The eyesight that made me a ship driver has regressed and further limited my ability to trouble shoot and repair things I can't see well. So based on that, I might be a fit for a young guy trying to advance to Pascal status and beyond.

Anyone know of schools or training programs placing their students to get experience that might fit my need?

Bruce

Freestyle
1986 62 CPMY (54MY with ext)
Tampa
 
I don’t know if places like sea school and the like have any referral placement program, give them a call.

We have a young mate on the 116 we run who I am training / mentoring. When he started he barely knew the difference between a screw and a bolt. A year in, he s doing a lot the routine maintenance and has developed troubleshooting skills. A near miracle for a millennial :)

If you use social media, there is a Captain and Mates group on FB with many young guys posting looking for mate positions.
 
Freestyle said:
Thank you all for the input.

I think I need a young mate that needs hours. I am a Navy SWO and enjoy navigating, piloting and know how to do these things the 'old way' but enjoy electronics and autopilot too. A bad ejection seat ride and subsequent fused vertebrae leave me in need for help lifting things.
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How does a SWO get an ejection seat injury?

What is a young mate that needs "hours"? Hours for trying to get a license? An inexperienced unlicensed person needs seatime underway, not slavetime at the dock. And considering the going rate for unlicensed guys is probably 400-500 a day, I'm not sure your budget accomplishes this. You may be better off to hit up the vocational training program at your local highschool to get a kid that wants some experience after school.

You might find a Huck Finn on some internet forums, but the original Huck had some good river navigating intuition...lots of internet guys seem to always be bending props and churning mud.
 
Insurance companies have become extremely sticky about who may run your boat in the owner's absence. Add to this an application for a commercial purpose such as chartering and it could be problematic. I have experience with a friend who started with a 39'(?) Saber, then traded way up to a 73'(?) Marlow. He had little boating experience. His insurance company required him to have a full time licensed captain, possibly even when the boat was laid up. My friend, formerly a licensed pilot, picked up the navigation and the docking and anchoring stuff on the smaller boat OK. He is not very mechanically savvy but he was learning. A very successful businessman, he expected everything on board, no matter how small, to work and he wanted it working now. A real captain on the larger boat was a good idea because maintenance, delivery and travel preparation was really a full time job, and working on the boat in the owner's absence gave more time to fix stuff. I helped the owner deliver both boats on the East coast. The complications and false alarms from the safety system were daunting. Everything was monitored by sensors which gave messages but not fixes for the problem. This was on 12 year old boat, which was like new to me!

To get back on track, these were problems he had in the US. Maintaining a boat in the Bahamas is about 7X these problems in getting parts and service personnel. Another thing that has changed over the years is that many charterers today want separate crew quarters as they may/may not want to fraternize with the crew. Finding a captain and/or a mate is hard. Also expensive. Good luck!
 
krush said:
What is a young mate that needs "hours"? Hours for trying to get a license? An inexperienced unlicensed person needs seatime underway, not slavetime at the dock. And considering the going rate for unlicensed guys is probably 400-500 a day, I'm not sure your budget accomplishes this. You may be better off to hit up the vocational training program at your local highschool to get a kid that wants some experience after school.

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Not sure where you got the $400-500 a day for an unlicensed “guy”. An unlicensed deckhand/mate will get $150-175 a day (non permanent position, day worker)… maybe $200 is licensed and experienced. $400 to $500 a day will get you a 100Gt master with good experience, again on day to day basis.

the average monthly salary for a full time deck hand / mate is $3500/4000 depending on experience and skills. I think that’s exactly what Bruce needs to help him enjoy his boat more and not have to worry when leaving the boat on a last minute business trip. Having someone watching over the boat, keeping in on top shape, addressing minor mechanical issues like air con, power etc.
 
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I think the 1st Mate recommendation would be a great path to really enjoy a boat for an aging, busy, or single owner. With current prices around here of $100 to rinse off a 50 foot boat that could be a real value.
 
Pascal said:
Not sure where you got the $400-500 a day for an unlicensed “guy”. An unlicensed deckhand/mate will get $150-175 a day (non permanent position, day worker)… maybe $200 is licensed and experienced. $400 to $500 a day will get you a 100Gt master with good experience, again on day to day basis.
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I'm talking about guys that cross oceans. A 100ton masterbaiter license may not even qualify for able body (AB) as a second set of eyes up on a real boat, and isn't even close to a 3rd Mate license. https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/NMC/pdfs/checklists/mcp_fm_nmc5_53_web.pdf
 
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