Lost my chart plotter...

[MikeP]

Well, not the ancient Garmin "backup" 3010C chart plotters, I'm talking about my GOOD chartplotter, my iPad. Since I don't have a mount for the iPad, it can be subject to moving around. On a boat, as we all know, objects that are dropped, slide, roll, whatever, seem to always move toward the water...

I recovered it but it's dead...positively, absolutely, undeniably and reliably DEAD.

I see that the a new one is $599...

 

[GJH]

Mike, look at the Sea Sucker mounts, I saw a guy with one for his I-Pad and it was very slick; usually I am a fan of RAM mounts, which are worth looking in to as well.

I Pad 2's are still available starting for 399 if you are fine with that for your purposes. Also look intorefurbished units. Yours is still worth something, there are buyers for these who salvage the parts or know how to get them working. Was yours submerged?

If I were buying a new one, I'd get a factory refurbished unit direct from Apple:

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad

 

[jim rosenthal]

Ouch. Not fun at all. And the stuff that's stored in it, too, right? Quite unpleasant.

 

[z28jimi]

If I were buying a new one, I'd get a factory refurbished unit direct from Apple:

I have a MacBook Pro and like it, but isn't it a little scary that there are that many current generation iPads on the refurb market already?

 

[MikeP]

"Was yours submerged?"

Yes, and I did the most serious WRONG thing afterward - turned it on to see if it was working. It displayed some weird stuff at random and then quit completely. I should have probably dropped it in a container of distilled water for a while and then let it dry out for a few days. I might run over to the Apple store in Annapols and see what they suggest. I'd be quite happy with a refurbished Ipad2, I don't have any need for the latest version.

 

[GJH]

I have a MacBook Pro and like it, but isn't it a little scary that there are that many current generation iPads on the refurb market already?

As a percent it is minuscule; they've sold these in the (tens of?) millions, and most returned product, 60-80%, doesn't have anything wrong with it other than buyer remorse or confusion. That applies to all electronics, not just Apple. So refurbishing often just involves re-kitting, polishing, wiping user data off. I do a fair amount of work in this part of the electronics biz.

Usually you can save a submerged cell phone or other device by immediately removing the battery drying it off as best you can, and put it completely covered in the middle of a bowl of uncooked rice or something like Damp Rid for a day or two. Unfortunately the new Apple stuff doesn't have a user removable battery.

 

[rsmith]

I think the refurb's are more from trade ins for upgrades or that they had so many unsold units when the next gen came out they cant sell as new so they go as refurb. You get a new batt with the refurb which is a large % cost of the unit. There are tons of gen 1's used on craigs list but the batt issue would worry me

 

[MikeP]

Well...I did exactly as Apple hopes we do in this situation - said what the heck and bought a new Ipad 3. I showed 'em!

 

[krush]

I'm not laughing, because I've dropped plenty of stuff in the water...but I am curious as to what kind of sound the ipad makes as it dives in?

 

[GJH]

I think the refurb's are more from trade ins for upgrades or that they had so many unsold units when the next gen came out they cant sell as new so they go as refurb. You get a new batt with the refurb which is a large % cost of the unit. There are tons of gen 1's used on craigs list but the batt issue would worry me

Actually if you take a look at Apple's site they have many that are current generation. The others are going to be mostly from people who have the Apple Care extended warranty and Apple just exchanged the unit. You are right about the battery issue on older used product.

Mike, just curious, what did they suggest or do about your old unit? That's getting to be a pretty expensive chart plotter!

 

[sandspur1966]

I recently bought the latest version and frankly, like my old iPad 1 better. If it were not for the 4g wireless, I would still be using the old one.

 

[rsmith]

the first gen 3's had overheat problems I dont remember seeing anything if they resolved the problems. My Iphone has a Lifeproof waterproof case that survived a 30 min 8' imersion. Dont know if they make anything like that for the IPAD.

 

[MikeP]

The Apple store said I could "trade in" my wet 32GB Ipad2 WiFi and get a refurbished one for $249 in 7-10 days. That would have been the smart thing to do so I disgarded that idea immediately! Or they had a refurbished one (no trade) for $349 (ordering on line), or a new 16GB Ipad2 at the store for $399. 16GB is insufficient so my choice was either a refurbished model/wait for delivery or a new 32GB iPad 3 WiFi for $599.

My "buy high, sell low" imperative kicked in so I immediately went for the new one at 599!

It's up and running - an easy setup to get all the stuff that was on my old one - and it's worth every penny of the $249 that I should have spent!

K - actually it was rather quiet, went in almost dead vertical, knifing nicely like a perfect dive!

 

[OBXTucker]

Take a gallon ziplock bag, fill it with instant rice (not cooked),
Put the iPad in there and seal it up for 3-5 days. I'm talking the one you dropped overboard, not the new one!

After a few days, open it up and try to power up. The rice is supposed to draw the moisture out of the iPad. I've seen it done and read about people have good success, but mainly with mobile phones. Cheap and worth a shot.
If it works, buy me a beer. If it doesn't, I'll buy you one.....

And for gosh sake, gat a ram mount!!

 

[OBXTucker]

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3705152?start=0&tstart=0

 

[thoward]

Go check out the Lifeproof case, they actually work.

 

[OBXTucker]

Mike, did you try the rice trick??

 

[MikeP]

Yes, I did but no joy. I'm sure that any chance it had of recovery was doomed when I turned it on immediately after taking it out of the water to see if it worked. It was my natural, and totally wrong, reaction...

I discovered that there is some market for such things on Ebay but I'm reluctant to do that since I don't know if the data on it would be recoverable. If so, I wouldn't want it to fall in the wrong hands.My Perpetual Motion Machine diagram, my cold fusion explanation, and my copyright for non-leaking Hatteras side doors are on there. Oh, and my bank account info as well but that won't be worth anything to anybody...

 

[Seabrooke]

Take a gallon ziplock bag, fill it with instant rice (not cooked),
Put the iPad in there and seal it up for 3-5 days. I'm talking the one you dropped overboard, not the new one!

After a few days, open it up and try to power up. The rice is supposed to draw the moisture out of the iPad. I've seen it done and read about people have good success, but mainly with mobile phones. Cheap and worth a shot.
If it works, buy me a beer. If it doesn't, I'll buy you one.....

And for gosh sake, gat a ram mount!!

It works a treat on pretty much anything. The rice will suck moisture from anything around it.

The Admiral dropped my iPhone in a glass of water one morning - it came out of the glass VERY quickly - so I did the old container of rice trick straight away and it's fine.

I've also done the same with my daughter's iPod Nano which she had in her pocket when she and a couple of mates were fighting over a garden hose in the front yard. All of them losing by the way - very funny. She nearly soiled her pants when she realised the thing was in her pocket. The rice sorted it - no problem.

Of course you can forget about any warranty claims. All Apple products have moisture dots inside (including the ear plug socket) that turn red when even mildly damp. It voids the warranty immediately.

 

[MikeP]

Well it was long out of warranty anyway and it wouldn't occur to me to ask for warranty support for my own stupidity. OTOH, when I was buying the new iPad, I was informed by the saleslady that Apple now has a 100USD add-on warranty that covers complete replacement for such things as dropping it in the water or any other accidental damage - drive over it with your car, whatever.

For the 100 bucks at purchase time, they will replace it with an identical model twice over two years for 50 bucks each occurrence. I NEVER purchase add-on warranties but I have to admit I thought seriously about that one. That would have meant I could have replaced my ipad for essentially 150 bucks which would have been a great deal.

FWIW, I haven't seen any reason to buy a new one (like I did). The higher resolution display has yet to make itself known in any way I can see on any apps that I use. Of course, if you feel Apple could use the extra money to help them stay in business, go ahead and follow my example!