Will carp close the locks?

[ppat324]

Eric and Akin...this is for you. And anyone thinking of doing the great loop.


5 States Make Final Pitch To Close Locks To Carp
States' Attorney Tells Federal Judge Evidence Of Asian Carp Threat To Great Lakes Is Solid
Font size PrintE-mailShare.(AP) CHICAGO (AP) - The reliability of DNA testing that suggests Asian carp may already be in waterways near Lake Michigan was the focus of final arguments Monday in a five-state lawsuit seeking the closure of Chicago-area shipping locks to keep the carp out.

Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin say closing the locks would ensure the invasive fish won't overrun the Great Lakes and decimate a $7 billion-a-year fishing industry.

Judge Robert Dow's questions during a three-hour hearing Monday focused on the reliability of environmental DNA tests that indicate the fish may already be near Lake Michigan.

Speaking for the states, Robert Reichel, said the science that looks only for genetic traces of live carp is solid and proves the fish could slip into Lake Michigan any day.

Dow says he'll likely make a decision within several weeks.

 

[Robby]

Eric and Akin...this is for you. And anyone thinking of doing the great loop.


5 States Make Final Pitch To Close Locks To Carp
States' Attorney Tells Federal Judge Evidence Of Asian Carp Threat To Great Lakes Is Solid
Font size PrintE-mailShare.(AP) CHICAGO (AP) - The reliability of DNA testing that suggests Asian carp may already be in waterways near Lake Michigan was the focus of final arguments Monday in a five-state lawsuit seeking the closure of Chicago-area shipping locks to keep the carp out.

Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin say closing the locks would ensure the invasive fish won't overrun the Great Lakes and decimate a $7 billion-a-year fishing industry.

Judge Robert Dow's questions during a three-hour hearing Monday focused on the reliability of environmental DNA tests that indicate the fish may already be near Lake Michigan.

Speaking for the states, Robert Reichel, said the science that looks only for genetic traces of live carp is solid and proves the fish could slip into Lake Michigan any day.

Dow says he'll likely make a decision within several weeks.

Well we have had a lot of fun on our posting our moving our boat with Randy .But this is very important to us.How many more here plan to loop in 2012?Robby

 

[Canuck Dennis]

Would be cheaper to actually net them as they enter a lock, a sophisticated system could be set up to catch them all , should be cheaper than the proposed alternates.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

They make great fertilizer. .......or we could open a cat food factory nearby. Could probably get a federal grant too. Job creation, what a concept.

 

[SeaEric]

Good grief!

 

[yachtsmanbill]

Pretty close SKY! Actually there is a move in southern Illinois trying to establish just that. Pressing oil out for fuel, making pet food, and of all things, fileting and freezing for export... seems china man actually considers them a delicasy. They could also serve fish on Friday at the State Penns' after working the cons all week doing infrastructure maintenance. And I dont mean picking up trash either. Give 500 gangstas' needle guns and have them tackle the Golden Gate... but thats a whole new thred LOL. Road Grading? Picks, shovels, and rakes. Heck, I'd even stop by with a case of Evian! ws

 

[ppat324]

The governor of the state of Illinios wants to ship the carp back to Asia. Read about it here...ppat



http://www.flybridge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=431

 

[smoothmove]

Here's a question. If the carp are ALREADY in the lake, is it then pointless to try and keep them out by closing the locks? I just can't imagine that someone hasn't dropped a few in the lake..... Just for the hell of it.

or

If you believe the the line that the carp invasion will cause billions in damages to the economy, and you are a terrorist, wouldn't that be a feather in your cap to do just that? I'm not sayin' - I'm just sayin'.

or

They found a snakehead or two a few years back. That had been released by someone presumably interested in starting a local source for a backhome delicasy.

We should probably begin thinking about what we should do after the battle to keep them out is lost. It is inevitable.

FWIW Many biologists believe the water is too cold and too clear for them to thrive. The Zebra mussels got here first and messed things up for the carp.

Eric

 

[Passages]

Kommandant Willy - Do I have to ask?
WHAT THE "H" IS ATTACHED TO THAT MOUTH O' TEETH?

 

[yachtsmanbill]

The rest of the tribe getting ready for dinner... ws

 

[REBEL]

I found this....may be of interest to any loopers in the Chicago area...rebel


Coast Guard announces temporary vessel traffic restrictions on Chicago Sanitary & Ship Canal

11/3 - Chicago, Ill. – The Coast Guard announces temporary waterway restrictions for vessel traffic on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal Nov. 3-5 from 6 a.m.-6 p.m. from mile-marker 296.1-296.7.

These vessel traffic restrictions are necessary for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to continue construction of the electric dispersal barrier in effort to prevent the passage of Asian carp into the Great Lakes.

To support these actions, the U.S. Coast Guard will activate a safety zone on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal. Vessel traffic will not be permitted to transit through the zone during periods of work. However, every effort will be made to allow vessels to transit when work is no longer taking place.

 

[smoothmove]

Ain't gonna happen - at least not soon

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...lock-asian-carp-migration-to-great-lakes.html

 

[Diver Down]

Today's issue of Maritime Today posted the following notice:

"The American Waterways Operators (AWO) applauded the decision announced on Thursday by the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois that denied a motion for preliminary injunction filed by five Great Lakes states to close Chicago area locks as a way of preventing the migration of Asian carp into Lake Michigan. AWO and a coalition of industries and associations had intervened on the side of the defendants, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago, to keep the O’Brien and Chicago locks open. In his opinion, Judge Robert M. Dow, Jr. wrote that the plaintiffs – which include Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Ohio and Pennsylvania – had failed to demonstrate that the migration of Asian carp into the Great Lakes “is either likely or imminent,” and failed to demonstrate imminent harm, especially since the abundance of negative eDNA evidence indicates that the invasion front is nowhere near the lakes and that the electric barriers are working. The judge affirmed that the Corps has been operating the locks according to its statutory mandate to sustain navigation. This decision comes after the state of Michigan’s unsuccessful attempt to persuade the U.S. Supreme Court to close the locks in April. AWO has endorsed nine actions other than lock closures that should be implemented to stop the migration of Asian carp. The measures are identified in the Asian Carp Control Strategy Framework prepared by a federal agency consortium. AWO remains committed to working in partnership with the Corps, the Environmental Protection Agency, the White House Council on Environmental Quality, and other federal and state agencies to prevent the spread of Asian carp and preserve the ecosystem of the Great Lakes while ensuring the free flow of essential commerce."

 

[Trojan]

Maybe they can close the locks and provide a transport carrier that will lift and carry your boat over the locks. The Trent-Severn in Canada has just that at its northern end. You drive your boat in, it holds your boat and takes it over a small mountain and puts you back in the water on the other side.

Bill I think your fish was a black piranha from the Nile River.

BILL