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Stuart, FL To Racine, WI On A 60MY

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Once I get this thing routed, we can have some mini HOF get togethers along the way.

Oh that would be cool. You're within reach for me for a good chunk of it. We can use my van for a supply run if you need. Would love to meet.
 
Hear that, guys? Oscar is bringing a van load of beer!
 
Roger that second fridge has been ordered.
 
you might want to unbolt everything while still at her home port in case there are some bolts or screws that wont let go. last thing you need is stripped bolts stopping you from making it under a bridge or two
 
Now you are up in my neck of the woods Randy.  You should be ok going up the Hudson to the erie canal, but make sure the locks are open.  There has been unusually high water up here, the last few years,  and it has affected marinas and docks with flooding problems, and no power.  If the canal is open, you must exit at Oswego.  You will never get under the bridge in Tonawanda NY. The max clearance is 15 ft.<br><br> Once you enter lake ontario, you will need to go through the welland Canal, which joins to lake Erie.  Fees are approx $280<br>last time I went through, and you will need 3 crew on board.  From there, west across Lake Erie, to Detroit river, into Lake St. Clair, and on to Lake huron.  Northward, then west towards Macinac and top of lake michigan,  Then across lake michigan, to Wisconcin, and Racine.<br><br>You will be travelling through some Very Big Cities ie NY City.  Stay at Liberty landing on the new Jersey side, just north of the statue of liberty.  Going up the Hudson is a wasteland.  Stay on the river. Going to smaller towns off the river will get you grounded,as those creeks silt up pretty bad.<br><br>Erie canal is neat.  Lot of towns offer free dockage at the town docks, especially east of oswego.<br><br>Once on Lake Ontario, the south shore is your best bet.  No border problems.  Oswego, Sotus Bay, Wilson NY are your best bets for mooring.  Rochester is good too, but you cannot get down to the city because of the dam.  The marina at the mouth of th Gennesee River is a good bet.  This was the terminal for the Catamaran that used to run from Toronto to Rochester, but the good restaurants are downtown.  You need to Uber.  Stay away from St. Catherines unless you don't mind clearing Cdn Customs.  If you do go there, St. Catherine marina is a good bet,  Port Dalhousie on the other side of the river is full of great restaurants in the warehouse district up the hill.<br><br>Once on lake erie, stay on the south shore.  Buffalo, Erie Penn, Cleveland, Toledo, Detroit, all offer top notch marinas and restaurants. Once in lake huron, things get a little sparce,  Get the Ports book fort the great lakes.  Its 40 bucks, lots of pics and great info on moorings, marinas, stores and restaurants.  Figure 2-3 weeks on the great lakes portion.<br><br>One more thing...When you get to the welland Canal, you will need to check in with the traffic manager.  You will need to dock at the small ship slipway, about 1 mile north of the first lock, and call the traffic mngr on the phone provided.<br>He will come to the boat and discuss what you will have to do.  Once he gives you the go-ahead, you cannot stop .  Freighters take priority, and they are huge. So are the locks. <br>If the manager comes to you and his first name is George, say hello to him from me.  Tell him Martin and Debra came through 5 years ago on a 41DC. He should remember us.  He cleared the passage all the way through to Lake Erie, and we set an unofficial record (4.5 hr)  Usually takes 8-12 hr.<br><br>Thats all I can think of right now.  except have a safe trip.<br><br>mderlick<br><br>53 my jimmys girl<br>41dc francine 111
 
One more thing Randy. It is Cold. Watch out for ice, especially on Lake Huron north towards Tobermory. If it is a cold winter, the lakes will be 40-45 farenheit.

mderlick
 
Thanks for all your input, Marty. We’ll definitely do our homework and call ahead before we leave out.
 
you might want to unbolt everything while still at her home port in case there are some bolts or screws that wont let go. last thing you need is stripped bolts stopping you from making it under a bridge or two
That’s a good idea. We can do a practice drill and lube everything good to make it easier when it really counts. The way the arch is positioned would seem to make it virtually impossible to hinge without significant fiberglass work.

Guess I’ll call Hatteras and confirm the air draft as we couldn’t find it on the drawings/specs in the manual.
 
Just talked to Hatteras and was told 20’9” waterline to the top of the arch. Gotta love it that they can and will provide that information. Unfortunately, that puts us smack dab in the middle of it maybe clearing.

I’m thinking it might make more sense to just wait until we’re a day out, and then pull the arch with everything attached and lay it on the aft bridge deck. It would be a heartbreaker to remove everything from the arch, only to find we’re 6” too tall. I’ll let Dave make that call.
 
I know a guy who did the exact same trip with a 60MY a few years ago. He had the arch hinged while in Florida for that very reason.

That boat is currently for sale in Montague, MI. If you look up the listing, there may be pics of how they did the hinge.
 
My air draft is about 20’ 6” waterline to my hard top. I have a hydraulic radar arch that lowers below my hard top. I am docked 1/2 mile west of the Csx railroad bridge in Brewerton. I make it under that bridge with normal water levels with about 8-12” to spare. That is the lowest bridge that you will have to clear. The other bridge that is close, is the pedestrian bridge in Oswego between lock 7 and lock 8. The canal controls the pool and can lower the water level in about 20 minutes if need be.
 
I know a guy who did the exact same trip with a 60MY a few years ago. He had the arch hinged while in Florida for that very reason.

That boat is currently for sale in Montague, MI. If you look up the listing, there may be pics of how they did the hinge.
I'll take a look, but I honestly can't see how it could be done without a LOT of work. The railing on the bridge aft of the arch would have to be removed, even if the arch was cut and had plates installed. It's a whole other animal compared to most.

If you have some way of contacting that guy who made the trip in a 60, I'd love to pick his brain.
 
My air draft is about 20’ 6” waterline to my hard top. I have a hydraulic radar arch that lowers below my hard top. I am docked 1/2 mile west of the Csx railroad bridge in Brewerton. I make it under that bridge with normal water levels with about 8-12” to spare. That is the lowest bridge that you will have to clear. The other bridge that is close, is the pedestrian bridge in Oswego between lock 7 and lock 8. The canal controls the pool and can lower the water level in about 20 minutes if need be.
That makes me feel a bit better. Removing everything above the arch is something that shouldn't be that difficult compared to removing the arch. Guess we'll make the call the day before. Hopefully the water level will be "normal".
 
Yep, they cut the arch and installed plates. Great photo of the work, and it obviously just lays on top of the existing railing. With that, I have to wonder how much it really cut down on the clearance as the arch is not really that much taller than the windscreen.

www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/hatteras-60-motor-yacht-3238886/
 
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Looking at that listing, Dave's boat is MUCH nicer. That galley up is... strange to say the least. Parking my ass on a counter top to drive a boat is not my idea of a good time. I could move that cooktop and give myself the Aunt Jemima treatment. :D
 
I have a friend that brought a 60'+ Viking up to Lake Champlain. He used a professional captain. In order to get under the fixed railroad bridge on the canal, They topped off the fuel and water tanks, filled the holding tanks and bought a bunch of kiddie pools that were placed on the decks and filled.
 

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