strut surprise

[UNIQUE_NAME]

2 struts holding 1 3/4" shaft.
have the shaft out and when the yard started pulling the cutlass bearings we came across this.

the aft shaft was the normal rubber or whatever it is with a metal shell.
the forward strut had the rubber but a fiberglass shell, not metal.
removed the set screws and broke it up to take it out but its almost like it was glassed in place.
having to sand pieces of the glass inside the strut.

anyone seen something like this before?

 

[Captain Ralph]

Cutlass bearings come with different sheaths and liners.
I would venture to say somebody had already replaced the bearing(s) before.

So, the big question; What bearing issues are you having?
If one or both bearings have already been replaced and you are replacing them again, maybe worth looking the alignment of the struts over very carefully.

 

[Boatsb]

Non metallic bearings are used in many applications. Not usually a hatteras but no real harm.

 

[UNIQUE_NAME]

Cutlass bearings come with different sheaths and liners.
I would venture to say somebody had already replaced the bearing(s) before.

So, the big question; What bearing issues are you having?
If one or both bearings have already been replaced and you are replacing them again, maybe worth looking the alignment of the struts over very carefully.

the problem that was with the shaft log hose.
the shaft and props went to the shop for lookover and with the shaft out the cutlass bearings became a while your there item.
ive owner her for 20+ years, first time im doing bearings. no problems before this but i dont put many hours on her just short trips every weekend.

 

[Captain Ralph]

A wild (WILD A) guess, only bearing(s) on the shelf THAT day, over 20 years ago.

Next SWAG; a brass sleeve was a sloppy fit over 20 years ago. Somebody floated a synthetic cutlass in?

Tell us how the new bearings fit when re-assembled.

 

[UNIQUE_NAME]

will do, reassembling in the next couple days

 

[cww]

How long do cutlass bearings generally last? Mine were causing the shafts to be hard to turn and so are being replaced, and the marina thinks they’re original. I’ve never had to replace them on any other boat before so I guess maybe they last awhile?

 

[Captain Ralph]

Out of the water for a few minutes, large shafts will be hard to turn.
We used soapy water to lube the shaft/cutlass back up when doing run-out checks on others boats.

We have 2.5" shafts. I replaced only one bearing 16 years ago, the other 3 are the ones on my boat when purchased near 19 years ago.
Out of water survey last October, All was tight.

 

[cww]

Out of the water for a few minutes, large shafts will be hard to turn.
We used soapy water to lube the shaft/cutlass back up when doing run-out checks on others boats.

We have 2.5" shafts. I replaced only one bearing 16 years ago, the other 3 are the ones on my boat when purchased near 19 years ago.
Out of water survey last October, All was tight.

I'm used to them being a little stiff but I could always move the props by hand on all my other boats, with a little effort. On this boat one shaft wouldn't turn without a pipe wrench, let alone by hand, and the other side wouldn't turn even with the pipe wrench. I was also having problems with stalling when switching gears. They were definitely a problem.

 

[Captain Ralph]

I'm used to them being a little stiff but I could always move the props by hand on all my other boats, with a little effort. On this boat one shaft wouldn't turn without a pipe wrench, let alone by hand, and the other side wouldn't turn even with the pipe wrench. I was also having problems with stalling when switching gears. They were definitely a problem.

What did the bearings look like when removed, swollen or deformed some way?
How were they removed, shafts pulled and punched out or pressed out with shaft in place?
How did the shafts look at bearing area?
Alignments preformed?

You have my interest up.
rc

 

[cww]

What did the bearings look like when removed, swollen or deformed some way?
How were they removed, shafts pulled and punched out or pressed out with shaft in place?
How did the shafts look at bearing area?
Alignments preformed?

You have my interest up.
rc

I had the alignment done a short time ago but it didn't fix the problem. One side was within spec and the other side was out. I did have that done though. This problem came to a head when the mechanics who rebuilt the engines said the shafts are way too hard to turn and they wouldn't warranty the engines unless that was fixed along with a seacock that wasn't opening all the way.

The shafts were taken out of the boat. They also recommended since they were removing them anyway that I reface the couplings and have the shafts polished. It was all rusted together, removing the couplings required a 30 ton hydraulic press. The shafts and couplings are over at Dominey propeller this week getting refaced and polished. If there is too much bearing wear on the shaft I am sure they will tell me, I've been using them for 15 years. They'll speak up if something is too bent/worn/etc. to use. They're not bashful about that.

I wasn't there when they took the bearings off. I should ask how bad they were out of curiosity, that's a good question.

 

[Captain Ralph]

Tell Tyler Ralph & Josie said hello.

 

[cww]

Tell Tyler Ralph & Josie said hello.

I will. I don't know if you heard, Tyler got the 'vid bad, he was out of work for months. He recovered and is back at it now. I sympathize with him, same thing happened to me when I got delta, lost 30 lbs just laying in bed sweating, almost died. Like him I'm back at work, but I wish that weight had stayed off LOL

 

[Captain Ralph]

I will. I don't know if you heard, Tyler got the 'vid bad, he was out of work for months. He recovered and is back at it now. I sympathize with him, same thing happened to me when I got delta, lost 30 lbs just laying in bed sweating, almost died. Like him I'm back at work, but I wish that weight had stayed off LOL

BTW, Where is your boat getting this service.
I'll be at Huckins next week.

 

[cww]

BTW, Where is your boat getting this service.
I'll be at Huckins next week.

Sadler Point

 

[Captain Ralph]

Sadler Point

Is Chip still there?
He is a walking land mark.

Understood Sadler Point marina and Ortega Club Marina was purchased by Windward Group.
Any change in business?

 

[cww]

Is Chip still there?
He is a walking land mark.

Understood Sadler Point marina and Ortega Club Marina was purchased by Windward Group.
Any change in business?

Ortega was, Sadler was not. They've approached Brooks but so far as I know all they've done is talk, it hasn't been sold yet. Chip is still there, and still has his old wooden Dunphy inboard boat called Barnacle Bill.

 

[Captain Ralph]

Ortega was, Sadler was not. They've approached Brooks but so far as I know all they've done is talk, it hasn't been sold yet. Chip is still there, and still has his old wooden Dunphy inboard boat called Barnacle Bill.

Sadler has been sold. Brooks was dragging his feet to let anybody know.

 

[cww]

Sadler has been sold. Brooks was dragging his feet to let anybody know.

Spoke to him about it last week, says deal isn’t final and they’re still negotiating. The company wants to buy it, but he only wants to sell a portion and remain an owner just with a partner. If he doesn’t get that concession then he won’t sell. Not saying it won’t eventually happen, just hasn’t quite yet. I do believe he will eventually sell, that job is all consuming for him and his wife and he wants to spend more time with the kids. If it’s not this deal it’ll probably be another one.