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Still Looking 38-42 Convertible Sale by owner

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36' CONVERTIBLE-Series II (1983 - 1987)
Well, Still looking for my first hatteras. Last one was a dog in sheeps cloths.
Prefer mid 1980's that has been taken care of. Half to cruise and half to fish. I am Located Chesapeke Bay/BAltimore Area. Non charter boat. Low hours. Trying to stay at or under 150K. I search yachtworld daily with no luck. Maybe theres one for sale by private owner. I know its a step down, but, Also will consider a like size Post or Ocean in exc. shape. Mid Atlantic area. I can be reached by email at cj@dormanbuilders.com.

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CJD
 
IMHO the market is a bit firmer than your price range..... you might find a 38 at that number, but then it all comes down to condition....
 
What is IMHO?
I would be willing to go up on price for the right boat but have to start somewhere!

CJD
 
In My Humble Opinion= IMHO An Ocean would be a major step down from a Hatt. A Viking or Post would be a reasonable alternative. Shame, I just sold a beautiful 42 Post 1981. Was right in your range. IMHO You may consider working with a broker. Some of us work quite hard, and do a good job in finding a customer the correct boat.
 
I'd consider a Post (and nearly did buy one, but the deal blew up over engine condition.)

However - none of those have the seakeeping of the Hatt......
 
Keep the faith....

I actively searched for no less than 6 mos. Set your mind on what you want and don't compromise. If you want a certain model, then that's the one you should get.

After all, you are going to drop big bucks and these boats don't change hands rapidly or often so whatever you get, you are going to have for a while. The Hatteras quality still shines through on my 20 year old rig. Based on my 14 mos of experience, that quality makes all the difference. There are newer million dollar boats in my marina that have a host of issues. But weekend asfter weekend (work permitting) we just go fishing.

Good luck !
 
Thanks for the advise guys. I plan to keep my next boat for a very long time so yes I will be pretty picky about this one. Thats one reason I am looking at Hatteras is for the depreciation. They seem to really hold there value more than most.
CJD
 
Hey Solanderi, well said, What size rig did you end up buying and did you by from a broker?
 
I decided that the 45C was going to be right for my family. I used yacht world to search and basically visited any 45C within a days drive from Miami. The boat was represented by a sellers' broker. I asked around and found separate hull and diesel surveyors. I was preparing to go to Louisiana when opportunity knocked.

This forum was a gold mine during my search with some of the members reviewing sales receipts of rebuilt engines to check for correct parts and going over sea trial performance numbers etc...(Thank you Genesis)

You have to do your research. IMHO, I am speaking for people that don't have a bottomless check book. I think that NO DEAL is better than a bad deal everyday. You have to be able to walk away from some beautiful boats if the owners can't provide you with rebuild info or subtract that issue out of the price. Some smart person on this forum wrote that in order of importance the rig needs to float, go, then look good. I think that is sound advice.

Good luck.
 
If you plan to keep you boat a while and will need to run in any seas avoid the Ocean Yachts. They are light, fast and weak...keel problems, fuel tanks come loose, etc,etc. They seem overpriced by comparison with the other boats you mention. Mostly style, little substance.

I do like Posts and am partial to their interior design as well. They reportedly may not run well in following seas...You can also read David Pascoe on any of these boats for one man's opinion and some insights.
 
REBrueckner said:
I do like Posts and am partial to their interior design as well. .
I second that. Interior of Posts are spacious and well appointed. Vikings too although less spacious.

Bertrams are probably the best of the bunch as far as sea keeping, but the ones I've seen are rather spartan fish chasers.

For half cruise, half fish use, I'd stick with Hatteras, Viking & Post.
 
I don't care for how Bertrams sit when shut down. Great headsea boats but can be really nasty on a drift......

But - that's me.
 
Genesis said:
I don't care for how Bertrams sit when shut down. Great headsea boats but can be really nasty on a drift......
Well yeah, but I think any boat in the 40' range is going to roll during a drift.
 
The Hatt doesn't roll as much, and it has a more gentle feel to it when it does......
 
A few of you all have said Post is a pretty good builder. I'm interested in learning more about the 46 Post - nice layout and had 671 or 692 and will cruise 20 plus knots. Anyone have insight on good or bad years - they were made for a long time. I have heard that that they had wooden superstructures that tend to rot. A Hatteras is my dream but my budget needs some options. Cheers - geo.
 
The 46 Post is a great boat. If I were to sell my 42, the Post 46 would be on my short list. Even the forum Pooh Bah came close to buying that model.

I would target 1980 or newer. In 1983 most of the exterior mahogany was replaced with fiberglass and in 1988 the hull was modified to improve sea keeping.

Wood superstucture on a Post? I don't think so.

Check out the Pascoe Review at:
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/post46.htm
 
The one I nearly bought was a 43.

I don't care for the 46, to be honest. Both the 43 and 46 were produced with the 6-71s. There were a few that had 6V92s in them - those are the engines you want - not the 671s.

They're ok for the 43, but most are set up at 485, and that's not a good rating at all. You need to cut 'em back to 410ish, which is going to eat into your top speed; with the 46 you won't like the results.

If I remember correctly (its been 6 years or so) 1988 was when the hull change went in. You want the later hull - it rides MUCH better. I've been in both and the difference is big.

You'll find that the POST is missing a lot of things that the Hatt has. For instance, it has a split 30/125V electrical system, instead of the 50A with isolation transformer that's in the Hatt. It doesn't have internal sea strainers. The systems are MUCH simpler - and less complete. The OEM head system was the Galley Maid which people either love or hate, depending on how many times they've had the pump eat a stator, where the Hatts had Vacuflush heads.

On the other hand the entire floor in the salon is HINGED and comes up in about 30 seconds full beam for engine maintenance. This has to be the easiest midsize sportfish I've ever been on in terms of engine access.

I do not like the ladder to the bridge on these - it is not at a constant angle, but has an articulation about 1/3 of the way up, and part of it is built out of the fiberglass tackle center on the port side. That'd be the first thing I'd change; I kept bashing my shins or head trying to negotiate it. IMHO that's a serious design problem. The side decks are also quite narrow and treacherous in a nasty sea - HANG ON TIGHT! That's the price for all the interior room that POST gives you....

There is no cofferdam of significance around the forward overhead hatches. I personally like how Hatteras built theirs with a nice tall lip to keep water splashing (or laying) on the foredeck from ending up in the stateroom. That's missing on the POST (to be fair, its also missing on the Vikings!)

The interior on the 43s has an odd overhang at the steps forward down into the galley/stateroom area. You swear you're going to bash your head - but you don't. Its quite disconcerting though the first few times you negotiate that stairway.....

Other thing to be aware of is that the alarm system is very, very sparse. These boats badly need a good alarm panel added, for all the obvious reasons.

The wiring is just "so-so" in my experiience on these - its not a Hatteras. Its not BAD, but I'm spoiled..... Also POST has a habit of putting the genset up against the forward ER bulkhead, which is IMHO one of the worst possible places for it in terms of noise transmission - and most do not have hushboxes. Unless its been retrofitted with a modern generator, you're probably going to want to address that.

The ones I looked at were all solid fiberglass hulls, including above the waterline, where Hatt is cored above the waterline. They're also quite light for their size and will SCOOT. The payback for that is that they don't have the heavy sea handling of a Hatteras, and when you get caught out in the nasty stuff, you're going to know it.

The ones I've seen also had straight exhausts (!), which makes them very loud behind. Not so bad up on the bridge or inside - but man, if you're 100' behind the boat when one of these lights off, it sounds like someone lit off a string of firecrackers right next to your head - a very, very long string.....

They're nice boats and Yachtworld has a handful of nice-looking ones on the market right now. I'd definitely give them a look-see, but be aware - you're giving up the Hatteras ride.
 
Sorry Karl, thought you were looking at the 46.

Agreed, A POST is not a hatteras, but they are a bit less expensive and certainly worthy of consideration. My slip neighbor has a 1983 42' POST which is simply STUNNING. He has DD 6-71's @ 450 hp which is a bit over pumped, but with original 2000 hours, they are still going strong. We really like the integreted bench seat on the bow and under the windshield.

I was on a 46 POST last summer and it also got the thumbs up from the admiral.

Viking 41-46' interiors are even nicer than Post IMHO. The only concern I have with Viking is a reputation of poorly sealed limber holes which lead to stringer rot. Easy enough to check, but make sure they are checked. If you see rot - RUN AWAY!

cjd - Notice the absence of serious discussion of OCEAN Yachts - hmmmm, whats that tell you?
 
My big problem with Viking is service access. I quit looking at them over those issues.....
 
Yeah, I just thru the Ocean in there for conversation sake! Ive never been on one personally.

Thanks for all the interesting conversations here and opinions.
Ive been looking at Viking and Posts as well in that same size. Costs look to be about 10-15% lower in sales price on average. The Post does seem to have a larger interior. Not sure if its physically larger or just laid out more efficiently.

Ive still got my eye on this Hatt 38. Its got low hours DD671's rated at 485hp and everyone here advises to run away dont walk. I have been wondering why its been on the market since November. I guess these motors are scaring everyone away.

Anyway, Just put Hatteras shingles on my house!! My wife thinks I am obsessed with Hatteras.

CJD
 

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