Spin on oil filter adaptor

[holtcl]

Cinderella has 8v71n's with the original "cartridge" oil filters. I would like to use the adaptor kit (see url below) to convert to spin-ons. Question: My current oil filters are in the "upside down" position. I am assuming if I install the adaptor, the spin on filters will also be upside down. Is that ok? I understand that I could plumb them remote but do I have to do that? Are there any other considerations?

http://dieselpro.com/dp-25010854oilfilteradapterfordetroitdieselengine.aspx

Thank you,

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 MY

 

[Canuck Dennis]

That's is a heck of a high price, check with a local DD factory outlet, I pd no more than 50.00 ea.

 

[holtcl]

Thanks- do you have a link for that?

Thoughts on the other issue? Mike P are you out there? I think we talked about this at some point and now I am trying to resurrect my memory of the convo.

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 MY

 

[Canuck Dennis]

I bought mine at my local DD dealer in Canada.

If you have twin filters on ea engine there should be a drain fitting on the casting allowing ea filter to be drained easily.

 

[holtcl]

There appears to be, thanks!

I wonder if anyone can also answer the original question, specific to the filters being in an upside-down orientation and is it ok to convert to spin-ons without doing remote filters?

Thanks,
Cheryl

 

[jim rosenthal]

I can't think of a reason that it wouldn't be okay. I've seen plenty of engines with spin-on filters that were upside down (Ferraris among others) and they all seem to work fine. If the cartridge filter works upside down, why wouldn't the spin-on?

 

[Canuck Dennis]

On my 12's they are upside down, no problems with that

 

[Timeout]

Hmmm. Maybe I should turn mine upside down. Then you could just pop a hole in the top of the old can let it drain down and have a much cleaner way to change them.

 

[holtcl]

Cool- thanks- sounds like I can just order the adaptor kit and convert to spin-ons.

Why have I waited 4 years to do this?

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 MY

 

[MikeP]

Hi Cheryl,

My eng (and tranny) filters are remote mounted in the ERs at roughly chest-high level so they are very easy to change with the spin-on end up so you can actually change them with virtually no spillage. Obviously you need a lot of Aeroquip-type hose to do the plumbing - the total length would depend on where they were mounted. I'd estimate that our star ER uses a total of 15 feet of hose to/from each filter (eng/tranny) whereas the port probably uses 1/2 of that based on mounting location.

As far as filters mounted right side up/upside down, it depends on the filter design as to whether that matters. I use Baldwin filters on my little red car - same brand as I use on the boat. (The boat filters are somewhat larger! ) The Baldwins for the car have an internal standpipe so even though the filters are mounted upside down, not more than a drop or two actually drain from the filter when unscrewed. I don't know if the Baldwins on the boat have an internal standpipe or not. If they do, no oil will drain out even if mounted upside down.

 

[Canuck Dennis]

something to be aware of...DD requires that oil filters be 11 micron..most others are 21 micron and many suppliers do not know what their rating is and indeed show a cross which is not 11 micron..check it out..no cost difference for the proper ones..


Rochester was the original mfrs..





 

[holtcl]

Thanks for the info- I'm familiar with the baldwins but was not with the micron specs-

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 MY

 

[MikeP]

11 microns? Wow - seems rather fine for DD two stroke engine oil but I have to admit I've never checked the service manual re that.

The Baldwin B95 is shown as the replacement filter for DD engines and it's what I have always used for that reason. But I have to admit, I have no idea what the micron rating of the filter is...

 

[Canuck Dennis]

If memory is correct, Baldwin and Napa are close to 21 micron..the DD part # comes up as 11 micron, worth re checking, the DD ones are less expensive than the Napa ones..

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I bought a case of original DD filters on ebay a couple of years ago. Keep your eye out as they come up there quite often.

 

[Boatnut]

I doubt if NAPA or Detroit manufacture filters, they do have them made to their specifications, and marked with their name on them.

Sometimes it does pay to use OEM parts.

How could an oil filter be too fine, I don't think that is the case nor the concern.

This information calls for a bit of research, me thinks.

 

[MikeP]

"How could an oil filter be too fine, I don't think that is the case nor the concern. "

Well, if it's too fine for the application it would clog relatively soon and when that happens the oil is totally unfiltered. But, yes, in reality it's probably not an issue at all.

To be honest, I don't think I have ever paid any attention to oil filter micron ratings. Filters were just purchased for X car or engine. The assumption - at least on my part - is that any oil filter sold for the purpose met the minimum requirements for the engine. Not saying I don't have personal preferences re oil filters but it has always been about perceived construction/features as opposed to anything to do with various micron ratings. IOW, I buy Baldwin B95s because they are "for" DD engines and I like Baldwin filters. I have no idea what their micron ratings is and as you pointed out, perhaps they don't actually meet DDs specs. That would be surprising to me when you consider how popular Baldwins are in the DD (and all diesels)world. But I have been surprised before…

 

[Bob Bradley]

Here's an interesting read on overall quality of the various manufacturers. There's quite a bit of disparity among them.

http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/index.html

 

[Finalee]

Here's an interesting read on overall quality of the various manufacturers. There's quite a bit of disparity among them.

http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/index.html

Interesting read. If only the testing where recent.