Price Drop?!

[saltshaker]

My boat is far from original. The salon, galley and dinette have been completely redone in dark cherry. Flooring was changed to Amtico teak and holly, new low profile cut down galley, all new heads with granite and new flooring. I love the way it looks and feel the modernization compliments the original style of the boat.

 

[Boatsb]

My boat is far from original. The salon, galley and dinette have been completely redone in dark cherry. Flooring was changed to Amtico teak and holly, new low profile cut down galley, all new heads with granite and new flooring. I love the way it looks and feel the modernization compliments the original style of the boat.

And it was done on a budget. A big budget. No corners were cut. No sailboaters were consulted.

Seriously it can be done tastefuyl like Jacks but too many are done otherwise.

 

[Seabrooke]

And it was done on a budget. A big budget. No corners were cut. No sailboaters were consulted.

Seriously it can be done tastefuyl like Jacks but too many are done otherwise.

That's the way it should be done too. If a solid boat in good structural/mechanical/systems condition can be had for a value price, a good dollar can be put into a beautiful visual and amenities modernisation.

I recently saw a 53YF advertised with an updated interior - magnificent.

I think this looks great and would be very happy to have a classic styled similar to this interior.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I like that one too, but the 53 that the OP was referring to was not that well done.

You also have to think about what you can't see. Almost every time I have had a problem on my boat it was not related to the original Hatteras build. The problems have been with what others have done to the boat later on. As far as I'm concerned the best boat is one that is unmolested. You get a clean slate to work with and you can refer to the original build documents and wiring diagrams. I'm not saying that there aren't good refits that meet or exceed the original build quality, but you must look at them very closely. You can't just assume that a flashy new interior was plumbed with copper, wired with tinned wire, nailed with brass brads, and screwed with monel screws like Hatteras did originally.

 

[rsmith]

That's the way it should be done too. If a solid boat in good structural/mechanical/systems condition can be had for a value price, a good dollar can be put into a beautiful visual and amenities modernisation.

I recently saw a 53YF advertised with an updated interior - magnificent.View attachment 10869View attachment 10870View attachment 10871

I think this looks great and would be very happy to have a classic styled similar to this interior.

Looks like a motorhome to me, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder

 

[Seabrooke]

I like that one too, but the 53 that the OP was referring to was not that well done.

You also have to think about what you can't see. Almost every time I have had a problem on my boat it was not related to the original Hatteras build. The problems have been with what others have done to the boat later on. As far as I'm concerned the best boat is one that is unmolested. You get a clean slate to work with and you can refer to the original build documents and wiring diagrams. I'm not saying that there aren't good refits that meet or exceed the original build quality, but you must look at them very closely. You can't just assume that a flashy new interior was plumbed with copper, wired with tinned wire, nailed with brass brads, and screwed with monel screws like Hatteras did originally.

I could not agree with you more Sky. The same goes for renovated houses, restored or "tuned" cars, and of course boats are the most important and susceptible to poor workmanship because of the remote nature of their operation.

And hey, thanks very much for your input on the condition of the boat. It means a lot to be able to ask people that have seen it.

I'm not too concerned about hinges, fittings etc. Being a shipwright, that stuff is no big deal. The tyrrany of distance for me is all about the condition of the important stuff. The broker tells me that the boat had Seabrace Stabilisers fitted in 2005. Are you familiar with these? From what I can see they are fairly basic and mostly reliable but do have a few idiosyncratic bugs.

Any thoughts?

 

[SKYCHENEY]

A good friend has a 60MY with Wilcox Seabrace stabs and has had nothing but problems. The company is out of business and parts are hard to come by. Most of the major components are standard items, but the control boards are the weak point. My friend just had a complete upgrade in controls done by another HOF member. This really improved the reliability of the system. If I were looking, I would pass up anything with Seabrace and look for a boat with Naiads or Wesmar.

 

[Seabrooke]

If I were looking, I would pass up anything with Seabrace and look for a boat with Naiads or Wesmar.

I definitely have Niaids as the highest on the tree, preference wise.

 

[spartonboat1]

Re: Price Drop?!/ Sold and Moving

Well, by happenstance I spotted a 53'MY in a transient slip, at my new marina, so struck up a conversation. Turns out it was the 1978 53'MY, which is the subject of this thread. As a courtesy to the new owner, I won't indicate his name or specifically where she is going, but it is from Lk MI over to Lk Huron.

All I can say is, she is getting a great new owner, and he said this is his first (big?) boat. So he is starting at the top, IMHO. I did a verbal of the full rundown of all the actions that should be done to the boat, and he either has had them done, or is planning to do even more. Very impressed with his planning and future plans. She is in good hands.

He and his wife will be moving it this weekend, plus he will have a professional captain aboard, and an engineer, so that is smart planning and good crew, to say the least.

However, I checked the NOAA weather graphics website this am, and to a limited degree they will be testing her sea keeping. South. LK MI is running a 2-4' seas, and maybe 5's on Mon-Tue. But she should brush that off no prob, plus she has stabs. Also, it is a south wind, so will be following sea.

So I wish them a good run over the next several days, and a good life's experience with the boat. Both they and the boat are in good hands.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Is there anyone here who has NOT had a problem with their stabilizers? This seems to be a troublesome item no matter who builds it, but at least Naiad is still in business...

 

[MikeP]

Funny - I was looking at a really nice 53 here at the marina the other day that I had not been aboard previously. When I looked in the ER I saw that it had stabilizers (Niiad) and asked, "Do the stabilizers work?" He replied, "If you mean do stabilizers keep the boat from rolling, then yes, they work great. If you mean 'are the stabilizers on this boat operating' then the answer is 'of course not' ".

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Naiads are very simple and very reliable, IF you actually do the maintenance. The problem is that they work so well, most people just forget about them and NO maintenance is ever performed. Then, years later, they wonder why they have problems.

 

[sandspur1966]

I have Seabrace stabs and agree that I would likely pass on any other boat that has them. The PO had someone refit them in what was one of the worst butcher jobs I've ever seen.

One of the features of the original Seabrace system was the fact that each fin was on it's own belt driven hydraulic pump on each main engine. The PO had a guy come in and put a grainger, 110v hydraulic pac and powered the controls with a 24 volt radio shack wall plug converter... I'm not kidding.

I did a rebuild of the system last year and in retrospect it was another mistake. I had a gear driven pump installed, a new cooler, custom made aluminum reservoir and updated electronics among other things.

I ended up paying well over double what the original quote was and and still have a system that is less reliable than the Niad on my prior boat.

I should have pulled the Seabrace system, patched the hull and installed a seakeeper gyro unit.

 

[tomrealest]

I have Seabrace and they are still working fine. I would agree to go with Westmar, Naids or the Seakeeper gyro.

I need to replace my gyro because it is making a high pitched noise when I shut down. I get Danny, the old Seabrace installer to check my system every few years. That has made a big difference. They work very well and I'm glad I have them.

AND their PAID FOR.