NEEDED: derelict/salvage 58' YF or 53' MY for parts

[Pascal]

I wonder what the hard top extention is going to do to the lines and proportion of the boat. Same with an enclosure, if the rear section (along the stern) is vertical instead of slanted, the aesthetics won't be as good and you don't gain much anyway All the 53s I be seen have the rear slanted not vertical. Sleeker

 

[johnjen50]

Sure. I'll be down the boat next week an will take a bunch more pics. Go on my profile page till then to give you an idea of what its like. We love it enclosed. To Pascal's point, I will shoot some broadside photos once the shrinkwrap is off and you can see that the back of the enclosure does slant inward making for a pleasing line. I would think that the extension of the roof deck would be ok as long as the back porch enclosure slants inward.

 

[Glory]

I wonder what the hard top extention is going to do to the lines and proportion of the boat. Same with an enclosure, if the rear section (along the stern) is vertical instead of slanted, the aesthetics won't be as good and you don't gain much anyway All the 53s I be seen have the rear slanted not vertical. Sleeker

The lines, about 10 years ago I moved my fly bridge forward 25", now the bridge leading edge and the windshield are on the same line. Nobody ever asked a question about it.

Also there is a 58 YF, called "Admiralty", i last saw her at Block Is, that had the bridge deck extended and enclosed, while it looks different than the 58 YF we are used to it looked good. It resembles 58 LRC enclosure. From the side. A nice job, quality work.

JM

 

[MarioG]

I wonder what the hard top extention is going to do to the lines and proportion of the boat. Same with an enclosure, if the rear section (along the stern) is vertical instead of slanted, the aesthetics won't be as good and you don't gain much anyway All the 53s I be seen have the rear slanted not vertical. Sleeker

Actually, the lines won't change my boat's profile much. Remember that I have that piped up 4' canvas canopy off of the back of the roof top already. It basically will replace the canopy. As far as the fwd slant , the enclosure will be fwd slanted like a typical hard enclosure used on our boats. It will look correct.

It's not that difficult really.

 

[MarioG]

I'd cut the back off. Position it where you want and build a new piece with structural fiberglass staff and Coosa board. Makes for a better finished product and can't rot.

The weight will be an issue as will the additional structure and support systems. What about the davit? Will it move?

I honestly don't think that an extra 4' will make that big of difference weight wise. The new hydraulic davit now installed will stay in the same place. Yes structural fiberglass and Coosa board will be part of the structure.

 

[bigbill]

admiralty is now in mississippi and is called material sciences, she has been on the yard for a couple of years, i'll see if i can get some pics

 

[MarioG]

admiralty is now in mississippi and is called material sciences, she has been on the yard for a couple of years, i'll see if i can get some pics

This would be great! Thank you!

 

[Glory]

admiralty is now in mississippi and is called material sciences, she has been on the yard for a couple of years, i'll see if i can get some pics

Bill, when you say in the yard, you mean on the hard?

JM

 

[34Hatt]

Ok....

After getting a $47, 527.00 estimate to extend our aft deck rooftop 4', I took some measurements and realized that I can cut our rooftop at about 4 feet and just before the radius and attach the transplanted (medical speak for Jim) rooftop to get the extra 4' I wanted. Trust me, it will be done and it will be done correctly and look great....

Just build it make a reverse mold and it then will be exactly what you want I did this for a customer. It was made so that you can support the hard bottom raft also.

 

[SeaEric]

With photoshop, this is about what the roofline would look like extended.

 

[Walter P]

I think the extended roof on Eric's photo looks pretty good.

Walt

 

[Boatsb]

Do it in canvass and be finished with it already.

 

[jim rosenthal]

I like the idea of the extended hardtop, plus recycling part of a derelict boat is a good idea.

 

[Boatsb]

I like the idea of the extended hardtop, plus recycling part of a derelict boat is a good idea.

Did I mention it woukd probably save $20,000.00 with canvas.

 

[johnjen50]

Yeah, but he wants to lounge up there as well...........

WOW. I like the way Jim's photo looks too. That would really be a lot of extra room up there. Really nice idea.

 

[johnjen50]

WOW X2! Dan that is pretty sweet! How did you get the curvature right? I mean its dead on!

 

[Boatsb]

Yeah, but he wants to lounge up there as well...........

WOW. I like the way Jim's photo looks too. That would really be a lot of extra room up there. Really nice idea.

You can't have it all sometimes. Also there's a cost to do that. To add the length and support a tender means supports and structural work. The cantilever over the aft bulkhead will mean it has to be reinforced to hold the weight of the top, dink and people. Add it all up and it's a pretty large load but what do I know.

 

[johnjen50]

Agreed Scott, no argument. I suspect it can be done right, but question is will it still look as nice as Jim's photoshop if it's done right. Other thing is like you said, structural support will be necessary. However, can those structural supports take the form of carbon fiber and aluminum? That would lighten the load. If you look at aircraft technology you might be able to take your lead from that. The beauty of having these boats to work with is you know you've got the strength under you to make these kinds of changes..........as long as you do it right.

 

[Boatsb]

Agreed Scott, no argument. I suspect it can be done right, but question is will it still look as nice as Jim's photoshop if it's done right. Other thing is like you said, structural support will be necessary. However, can those structural supports take the form of carbon fiber and aluminum? That would lighten the load. If you look at aircraft technology you might be able to take your lead from that. The beauty of having these boats to work with is you know you've got the strength under you to make these kinds of changes..........as long as you do it right.

The structure needs to start at the hull. Down at the bottom. The lower stateroom bulkheads support the deck, supports the aft bulkhead supports the roof.....

 

[johnjen50]

Right. I think Mario is going to do this right, and consider all of those points. I'm very interested to see how he does it. He's got little kids, so I'm guessing he's not going to do it unless it can be done right. Naval architect? Draw plans up and execute the construction yourself? That's how I may approach it if I were doing this. I can tell you my upper deck is supported pretty robustly by the enclosure around the aft deck. I think you can bring that load down pretty low in the hull leveraging the structure. I'm actually always amazed that the Davit supports the whaler, as it just goes through the deck and mounts to the lower deck I the "back porch". Definitely more complicated than Dans great work but really interesting to watch.