Nancy Cay Pics

[Freebird]

Hell Randy She is SWEET she really does look Great. To think you were going to sell her to me for $25,000 . I guess I have to wait now .

Yeah, $25,000 plus a delivery fee of $70,000 if you buy the beer!

 

[Freebird]

Sorry, the resolution on the pics wasn't good enough to really see what the gauges did, and I thought you might have seen aircraft engine instruments that said T.I.T. on them. They always make me do a double-take. This is why I stay out of the sandbar. Seriously though, really nice boat. If I was the Motor Yacht type I'd get out of marriage before I got out of that.

Hey, you saying I take bad pictures! Stay on topic!!!!

Just kiddin'! Yeah, I hated ole Warren got kittywhooped like that. I love the boat, but he loved her more. Too bad.

That's why I invited him down to FL to ride Freebird. He's got an open invitation to ride Nancy Cay anytime.

 

[67hat34c]

wow,that is got to be the nicest 41dc around. fresh water and under cover what more could you want except spotless engine room and you have that too. Now I know that Freebird will be brought up to Nancy Cay standards, dont think you could live with it any other way.

 

[67hat34c]

Randy when you put it back on the market you will have to take it to shows in order to properly market it. you could easily convert the would be carver buyers hands down. Majority of buyers would never even think of looking at something this old. bet non Hatteras people are very surprised when you tell them the year, much the same as people are when we tell them the age of ours.

 

[Freebird]

Hey Steve, I'm not a smart man, but I know what love is!

And I love nothing better than a spiffed up old Hatt. That is if you don't count loading up your best buds and going cruising in one. On that note, you and Robert will be on the guest list for the second Maiden Voyage Hopefully Not From Hell when I get Freebird flapping again!

Thanks for the comments, and I'll try not to disappoint you with Freebird once she's been transformed.

 

[Freebird]

Randy when you put it back on the market you will have to take it to shows in order to properly market it. you could easily convert the would be carver buyers hands down. Majority of buyers would never even think of looking at something this old. bet non Hatteras people are very surprised when you tell them the year, much the same as people are when we tell them the age of ours.

Yeah, most serious Hatt guys can't figure out what it is as far as models go, and nobody every guesses her age.

She's definitely the eptiome of a "must see to appreciate" boat. I for one would have never responded to an ad for a 1965 Hatteras 41 Double Cabin. Before I laid eyes on this one, I just never considered owning any boat that old. Oh well, it was lust at first site, then love at first spin! Now we may very well be in the happily ever after stage. One thing is for sure, I won't sell her to some idiot who doesn't know anything about piloting or taking care of a classic. I owe her that much if I let her go.

 

[ThirdHatt]

Yeah, most serious Hatt guys can't figure out what it is as far as models go, and nobody every guesses her age.QUOTE]

She is a very nice example of what an early 41 can be, but that comment surprises me. You must have meant REGULAR Hatt guys, certainly not SERIOUS Hatt guys! I could easily identify it as a 1965 or earlier simply due to the curved windshield that was only made through 1965. The rounded edges of the salon windows identify it as a pre-1966 as well. In 1966 they changed the windshield and windows to hard angles and in 1967 they went to rectangular portholes (instead of the older rounded design) from then on. They also added another 100 gallons fuel capacity in 1967 but nobody can "see" that!

 

[Paul45c]

great pics Freebird...your 41 is a good looking boat.

So someone tell me the difference between a 58 MY and a 58 TC??

Check out the brochures archive on the Sam's main page, but from what I've seen so far, the wheelhouse is pretty much all the way aft on a TC or DC type, whereas they put it near the forward part of the raised house on a MY or YF. Also, you have the split walk-in engine rooms on the MY's and YF's, with more conventional engine room spaces with overhead hatches on the TCs and DCs. Hey, they're Hatts, so they're all good!

 

[Paul45c]

CrazyBIRD, I'm impressed. Wow, that's a clean boat and a really well-done refit. Yep, that 58's got a tough act to follow. Now, politely tell Carl & gang that you can't make the GuzCrooz this time out and get cracking on making that thing Nancy Cay-like. It's not bad times if you keep that BubbaKeg dangling around your St. Bernard neck while you're shining up the engine room spaces and pulling out window shakers, etc., etc.!

 

[Freebird]

Yeah, most serious Hatt guys can't figure out what it is as far as models go, and nobody every guesses her age.QUOTE]

She is a very nice example of what an early 41 can be, but that comment surprises me. You must have meant REGULAR Hatt guys, certainly not SERIOUS Hatt guys! I could easily identify it as a 1965 or earlier simply due to the curved windshield that was only made through 1965. The rounded edges of the salon windows identify it as a pre-1966 as well. In 1966 they changed the windshield and windows to hard angles and in 1967 they went to rectangular portholes (instead of the older rounded design) from then on. They also added another 100 gallons fuel capacity in 1967 but nobody can "see" that!

Okay tech boy! The main factor in confusing the SERIOUS Hatt guys is the enclosure, the wing doors, the glassed in front area with bow seating which replaced the original forward windshield, and the angles of the forward windows in the salon are different than the original. I have an original 1965 factory brochure with pictures that would render my boat virtually unrecognizable as being the same boat! It sure is funny to see those old hairdos and clothes, and BTW, Mr Expert, did you know these things came with record players for music entertainment?

Hate to burst your bubble on ANOTHER point, but the change to the hard angled windshield actually took place mid '65 when the DC became a TC. There were actually two distinctly different 41's in '65. Truth is, I didn't know that either until I helped another member get a wiring diagram for his '65 41DC. I had told him to call Hatteras for one, but they informed him they made two 41's in 1965, and he wasn't sure which one he had because he couldn't find his hull number. I called Hatteras to clarify things, and that's when they told me about the confusion with his prior conversation with them. BTW your welcome Akin.

One other difference you failed to mention had to do with construction. The 41DC was much heavier in construction than the 41TC and was lovingly referred to as an "icebreaker". This sucker is built like a tank. I tried to drill through the deck to install a davit bracket and bottomed out the bit without going through!

Oh well, sorry for the history lesson, and, oh yeah....thanks for the compliments!

 

[ThirdHatt]

Actually any SERIOUS Hatt guys would IMMEDIATELY recognize the enclosure and wing doors as AFTERMARKET because Hatteras NEVER delivered a 41DC with an enclosed aft deck. They only started offering a full length hardtop and a flybridge option in the last production boats of 1970 and 1971 as the 43DC production ramped up. Many of the early 41DC's only had a bimini, but then went to a half- length hardtop that only covered to the back of the helm seats. Same with the glassed-in forward salon windows. Both were fairly common upgrades in the aftermarket and quite desirable for many buyers.

Also, ALL changes were implemented the year before they were supposed to be "standard" simply because these boats took many months to build, so of course there will be some overlapping of a few hull numbers with the newer/older model's features. This is why all 1966 models have the newer windshield (and a few late-production 1965's as well). You are INCORRECT there Bubba because the 1966 is still transitioning from DC to TC. The larger fuel tanks and rectangular portholes didn't show up until late 1966 for 1967's TC. My 41TC is an early 1967 (41TC55). The owners manual has 41DC with a handwritten slash and corrected to TC. My friend had a 1966 which was 41DC38 and it had the newer windshield but smaller fuel tanks and rounded portholes.

Oh, yes, I did know about the record players but they proved to "skip" alot and 8-tracks were soon the in-thing. My 41TC still has the original, working 8-track in a little door on the stbd side!

By the way, I didn't attempt to point out EVERY difference between the DC and TC, merely a few to prove my point about the curved winshield immediately dating a 41 to 1965 or before. Nobody has ever suggested (to my knowledge) that the laminate schedule is different/less for a TC versus a DC. Most experts agree that the hulls didn't really start thinning out until well into the 70's due to many factors, one being the rising cost of oil (resin is a petrolium product). I had to drill a 2" hole in my hull outboard of the port gear for a transducer and when I got through my pinky finger could just barely reach the inside of the boat. That's about a 2" thick hull only a few feet away from the chine, nowhere near the keel! I doubt your "icebreaker" is any thicker than that Bubba!

Look who's really on the receiving end of the history lesson Bubba! While you were still playin' with sea rays and race boats I was deep into Hatts. I guess I'll mosey on back over to the tech section where I am more appreciated......

 

[Freebird]

Actually any SERIOUS Hatt guys would IMMEDIATELY recognize the enclosure and wing doors as AFTERMARKET because Hatteras NEVER delivered a 41DC with an enclosed aft deck.

I just love gettin' your panties in a wad "sister"! The fact that the enclosure and wings doors are AFTERMARKET is the reason MOST Hatt guys don't know what the heck this thing is. Thanks for making my point for me!

You are INCORRECT there Bubba because the 1966 is still transitioning from DC to TC.

Tell it to the folks at Hatteras. They are the ones who provided the info that BOTH 41DC and the NEW 41TC were built in the same year, 1965.

Nobody has ever suggested (to my knowledge) that the laminate schedule is different/less for a TC versus a DC.! I doubt your "icebreaker" is any thicker than that Bubba!

See response above. Seriously though, the old guy (who knows more about boats in general than all of us put together) told me that. I'll find out tomorrow if it's true and let you know.

I guess I'll mosey on back over to the tech section where I am more appreciated......

Now now, I appreciate you there TechHatt, don't get in the "habit" of hanging around on the other side cause you'll never get "nun" over there. Remember what I told you about being stuck in neutral. You'll either get left behind, or you'll get rear ended!

 

[ThirdHatt]

Now you know I didn't make your point, I only made mine so claiming that I did will not work-- even in the sandbar my friend.

I saw the "41DC38" stamped in my friend's 1966 model, so that's all I need to be sure that it is a DC.

Don't get in the "habit" of trying to twist my words or contradict everything I say. "Nun" of it will do you any good!

 

[Freebird]

I thought you had gone over to the other side!

Don't you get a little dizzy with all that back and forth fence riding?

Hell "son", I wasn't slamming you. Me and you are buds (I think), so I'll have "nun" of that slamming talk from you. Like I said, I ignore people I don't like!

 

[yachtsmanbill]

Ya know what Father Flanagan got for Christmas? NUN !

 

[Freebird]

Hey YottsmanWillie,

I left my cell at the office, and I'm too cheap to use the land line. I called around and got some leads on marinas for you around Aqua.

Talked to Jim Bennett and got the inside scoop on how to sneak in the back door down there! I'll know details tomorrow and will let you know.

See, it's all in who you know and how ye talk to Suthern folk!!!

 

[ThirdHatt]

Slamming? I never said anything like that! We're all good!

Hey Randy, seeing how you have lots of "tech" friends on the sandbar ("PC Nav Software thread), maybe you can get one of them to help you figure out how to shrink one of your 58TC pics and set you up an avatar! I figure with over 1000 posts and now your very own section of the Hatteras Forum, you are here to stay ( ) and deserve your own avatar. Whadda ya think??

(Note how I brought the seemingly hijacked thread back to Randy's Hatt pics!)

 

[Freebird]

Dang, I knew some mod likes me, he zapped your thread, or was that YOU who had a change of heart?

I'm glad you brought up the avatar thing. I tried to upload a picture and got fussed at cause it was too big.

How do you do that and not get fussed at?

 

[ThirdHatt]

It's one of the mysteries of this forum. To figure out how to load up your own avatar here is like a right of passage. Like I said, with 1k posts and a sandbar dedicated to you, it's time you step up and get your 58TC avatar up!

 

[Freebird]

OK LET ME TALK SLOOOOWLY THIIIIIIS TIIIIIIME.

I TRIED TO DO THAT AND COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

You gonna help me or just sit there and laugh at me for being so stupid?