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Lower helm visibility.

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I ll try to say this nicely... aesthetics don’t matter much on houseboats so a pair of of rusty mirrors salvaged from cousin bubba Lee’s old 18 wheeler woudl be an easy solution :)
The 85 footer I mentioned (worth at least triple what your 53MY is) actually had a pair off an old Jaguar E type, but they still worked. :)


Seriously, I've seen/used them on motor yachts, and they worked/looked fine. They have this amazing material called aluminum. Having them on folding brackets is the key as they're tucked out of the way when not in use.
 
Come to think of it, I think my old boat’s lower helm had the worst visibility of them all.

Back in the ‘90s I was single handing my boat (38’) south from Wrightsville Beach to Charleston. My friend, Jay, was following me in his similar sized boat. We were just south of Southport, NC when I had an emergency call of nature of the high and highly aggravated type; the kind you can’t ignore. We were on the ICW and, fortunately, on a Monday morning. The channel was narrow, the wind was blowing, and there was nowhere to stop without getting in the marsh. No time nor place to drop the hook. Desperate straits.

I left them both in-gear at idle and took off with the autopilot remote. On the way below, I grabbed a hand held and told my buddy to switch channels. I told him to close up with me and radio helm inputs. “Huh?!?”

“Yeah, really.” I mean this was a no-sh#%er except there was plenty.

So there I was, sitting on my Galley Maid flushable helm seat with the radio in one hand and the autopilot in the other driving the ICW. Every few seconds came a message, “Port a couple, Starboard a bit, copy,” etc. “You done yet?”

“Rooooger.” I was starting the feel better all round. I froze: “What was that?” I radioed.

“We just met a northbound trawler. You should’ve seen that guy’s face,” he radioed back. I’m glad Jay had the presence of mind not to tell me beforehand.

I’ve been laughing at that feat of piloting for twenty-five years. I used to be bulletproof.
 
Come to think of it, I think my old boat’s lower helm had the worst visibility of them all.

Back in the ‘90s I was single handing my boat (38’) south from Wrightsville Beach to Charleston. My friend, Jay, was following me in his similar sized boat. We were just south of Southport, NC when I had an emergency call of nature of the high and highly aggravated type; the kind you can’t ignore. We were on the ICW and, fortunately, on a Monday morning. The channel was narrow, the wind was blowing, and there was nowhere to stop without getting in the marsh. No time nor place to drop the hook. Desperate straits.

I left them both in-gear at idle and took off with the autopilot remote. On the way below, I grabbed a hand held and told my buddy to switch channels. I told him to close up with me and radio helm inputs. “Huh?!?”

“Yeah, really.” I mean this was a no-sh#%er except there was plenty.

So there I was, sitting on my Galley Maid flushable helm seat with the radio in one hand and the autopilot in the other driving the ICW. Every few seconds came a message, “Port a couple, Starboard a bit, copy,” etc. “You done yet?”

“Rooooger.” I was starting the feel better all round. I froze: “What was that?” I radioed.

“We just met a northbound trawler. You should’ve seen that guy’s face,” he radioed back. I’m glad Jay had the presence of mind not to tell me beforehand.

I’ve been laughing at that feat of piloting for twenty-five years. I used to be bulletproof.
That’s some funny $hit right there! :D

I keep a jug handy when I’m running solo, and I avoid greasy food. Luckily I’m a regular guy.
 
A five gallon bucket and a roll of TP works well.
 
That’s some funny $hit right there! :DI keep a jug handy when I’m running solo, and I avoid greasy food. Luckily I’m a regular guy.
You know we fry our vegetables down here, right?
 
Thanks for all the input.

I am well familiar with the regs and the requirement to keep a lookout which is why I started this thread to begin with. It also appears my suspicion was correct and that keeping watch abaft the beam suffers with the enclosed helm.

So stepping out every 30 seconds, cameras, radar, vhf and a pair of KW mirrors should keep me in compliance.

Seriously, I think the camera idea has a lot of merit. Anyone know of any affordable stabilized ones? Mounted solid in a seaway could be a motion sickness inducing viewing experience.....

And yes I too have left the helm to go below and do some quick business. At idle. Got back topside just in time for a hard over around a 1/4 miles long fishing net.......
 
Oscar....how many years now you've been "seeking"? I think I've gone through 3 or 4 boats in that period.
Seriously...get off the couch and step away from the keyboard and pick a boat.....any boat. Mistakes can be corrected with "delete".
Many opinions....few decisions.
 
So stepping out every 30 seconds, cameras, radar, vhf and a pair of KW mirrors should keep me in compliance.
If nothing else, it should keep you in great shape. You can name your boat, "Hattaerobics".

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, lighten up, Oscar. You're looking at a boat, not a battleship.
 
Oscar....how many years now you've been "seeking"? I think I've gone through 3 or 4 boats in that period.
Seriously...get off the couch and step away from the keyboard and pick a boat.....any boat. Mistakes can be corrected with "delete".
Many opinions....few decisions.

Wait, you mean someone is challenging Krush and I for the record for taking the longest to buy a boat?
 
Wait, you mean someone is challenging Krush and I for the record for taking the longest to buy a boat?
I think your record is safe, but wasn't Krushter like 12 years old when he joined here?
 
I think your record is safe, but wasn't Krushter like 12 years old when he joined here?

I think it might've been 10. Who knows. I'm still not sure who has the record...but I did end up buying a Hatt.


Back to the rear-view camera thing: Do you have it show on the screen as normal, or do you mirror image it (like on my RV) so the stuff on the right side of the screen is actually the starboard side of the boat.
 
I think it might've been 10. Who knows. I'm still not sure who has the record...but I did end up buying a Hatt.


Back to the rear-view camera thing: Do you have it show on the screen as normal, or do you mirror image it (like on my RV) so the stuff on the right side of the screen is actually the starboard side of the boat.
Mirror images are where the mirrors come in. I'm not sure I follow your question beyond that. Whatever you point your camera at is what's going to show up on the screen, but it's the same as what you see when using a backup camera like on a RV.

Most cameras are set to look at the port and starboard corners of the stern for docking purposes vs being rammed by a sailboat, aircraft carrier, PWC, LEO, UFO, or NHO (Non-Hatteras Owner).
 
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So much love in this group! I will buy a boat, but again, I now have less than three years in the salt mines before I retire, and can unlock my tax deferred pot 'o gold and also have the time to do it right. I have owned several boats before so I have a "record".

No one wants to entertain the question if there are stabilized cameras for this purpose? I may have to fabricate something, at least with a lateral gimble....

As to the orientation of rear view cameras.... yes the "flip". If you were to take a regular camera and point it backwards, what's on port would be on the right side of the screen, and vice versa. As mentioned vehicle cameras flip so that what's on the left side of the screen is on the drivers side etc. Probably want to do that for a stern watch camera too.... so you don't have to do the flip in your mind and hurt your brains.
 
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Is this your way of telling us we have about three more years of this? :D
 
So much love in this group! I will buy a boat, but again, I now have less than three years in the salt mines before I retire, and can unlock my tax deferred pot 'o gold and also have the time to do it right. I have owned several boats before so I have a "record".

No one wants to entertain the question if there are stabilized cameras for this purpose? I may have to fabricate something, at least with a lateral gimble....

As to the orientation of rear view cameras.... yes the "flip". If you were to take a regular camera and point it backwards, what's on port would be on the right side of the screen, and vice versa. As mentioned vehicle cameras flip so that what's on the left side of the screen is on the drivers side etc. Probably want to do that for a stern watch camera too.... so you don't have to do the flip in your mind and hurt your brains.

I installed a "rear view" camera, but really only use it for docking. I have about a 15-20 ft view aft of my 58 LRC and can see the entire swim platform port-starboard... about 18 feet.

Here's what I went with … only the single camera... but you can get the system with up to four cameras...

https://www.rearviewsafety.com/safe...camera-system-quad-view-display-rvs-4cam.html
 
For perspective.... the RED LINE on the screen is about 3 feet behind the swim platform... the GREEN LINE on other side of the dock is about 12 feet...

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Not for the first time, I agree with RAC. Radar is nice I suppose, but there's no substitute for being aware, as best you can, of what's around you.

Even at 25 knots, I've had boats climb up my tailpipes pretty quickly. A few anxious moments, trying to figure out which side they wanted to pass on, after they didn't answer the VHF. "one whistle or two, captain?"
 

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