Is this a fair price

[savarese1]

I have quote to insal Tides Shaft Seals

Labor $3,080, Material 1,357 total 4,437

This does not include haulout or blocking as the boats already out of the water. We are located in Savannah GA. It seems excessive to me but wanted other opinions






Cover and protect path on main deck, steps and passageway on the port and


starboard side of the engine room aft doors.


Just inside the engine room aft doors, the main sea strainers are located. Remove


the sight glasses and internal components and store in a safe place. Unbolt hte


port and starboard propeller shaft coupling bolts. Loosen packing glands and pull


shafts aft to access coupling nuts. Remove coupling nut retainers and remove


nuts. Set up strong-back and jack on couplings. Obtain hot work permit for both






engine rooms. Heat and remove couplings from shafts. Loosen clamps on



packing gland hoses and remove same with packing glands. Clean I.Ds of


couplings and O.Ds of ends of the stern tubes and shafts.


Furnish and install 2 new Tides Sure Seal with spare seals and carriers. Install


new seals on stern tubes. Reinstall port and starboard shaft couplings, coupling


nuts and secure nuts. Rig an dpull shafts to engine couplings and bolt couplings


together. Install port and starboard main engine strainers and reinstall any


removals. Clean work area and remove the cover & protect material.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

That's a big job that can become difficult if things don't come apart well. I would think they are giving themselves some room for just such a problem.

I don't think its out of line.

 

[Cricket]

Don't think it's that bad at all. Getting the shaft separated from the coupling can be a tough job. I'm assuming the props are already off so they can slide the shafts back far enough??
Make sure they install the crossover water cooling hoses for the seals.
Just for reference we always pull our shaft if we have a coupling off to get it checked for straightness and any cracks.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Not a great deal but not unfair. Having just been through something similar, it's a time-consuming job.

 

[rob71]

I just transported a 45 Carver home from a local Marina.
They replaced 1 tides seal and all the cooling hoses after a failure.
$750 for the seal assembly $80 hoses and clamps. 24 hrs. in the sling.
They did not have to remove prop, just slid shaft rearward.
Total bill was $2,200.

 

[Boatsb]

Working on a 53 my on the hard is a bitch.

It's not a fun place to work and there's little room to move in there.


If you've not torn down one of these before youll appreciate the amount of work it is by imagining trying to sit on the engine while your leaning over the transmission trying to break 1 inch bolts loose that have been in place 30 years.

 

[Walter P]

Save your money and just go with Gortex in the original stuffing boxes. The advantages of the new seals are IMO not worth all the work or money.....and some have been known to fail.. After reading Scott's last post and imagining the situation really brought the issue in focus for me. There are so many things to spend your money on these old girls that shaft packing seems to me to be on the bottom of the list. Unless you have plenty of $ to get rid of that is.

Walt

 

[krush]

I agree. If I had original packing boxes, I would keep them and run duramax (graphite) packing or gore. But my boat already has shaft seals lol.

 

[dsharp]

What does "obtain hot work permit" entail? I assume it's so you can use a torch but, who issues the permit? I didn't see any labor to re-align the engines so you may want to address that issue.

 

[krush]

What does "obtain hot work permit" entail? I assume it's so you can use a torch but, who issues the permit?

Bigger commercial facilities have more safety standards implemented. Grinding, torch, or anything that makes sparks/flame require hot work permit and fire watch, etc. In industrial facilities, it's usually issued by operations or safety division...big places may have fire department.

 

[jim rosenthal]

I agree, the Gore Tex is looking a lot better.

 

[savarese1]

Thanks for all the advice. I think we are leaning towards goretex.

 

[Tinman]

Save your money and just go with Gortex in the original stuffing boxes. The advantages of the new seals are IMO not worth all the work or money.....and some have been known to fail.. After reading Scott's last post and imagining the situation really brought the issue in focus for me. There are so many things to spend your money on these old girls that shaft packing seems to me to be on the bottom of the list. Unless you have plenty of $ to get rid of that is.

Walt

This x2!

 

[mykim]

That's a lot of miserable work. Price seems about right. You can always get it done for less and you can also get it done for more.

 

[rustybucket]

I replaced the stuffing boxes in our 38. If I had to bid the job it would be similar except I would put a clause in for extra hours. One of the couplings came right off, the other had to cut bolts and eventually split the coupler to get it off the shaft. I spent almost an entire day on the one side, the other side only took a couple hours.

It's hot, nasty, cramped work and unforseen circumstances (stuck coupler) could extend the hours to complete consideribly.