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Insurance Survey

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bobk

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I changed insurance companies in June and the new one, Seaworthy, wants an out-of-water insurance survey before the policy renews. I'll get this done in October just before the boat is re-launched, but for now I'd welcome any advice on what to look for and avoid in a surveyor and specific recommendations for an accredited surveyor in Stuart FL.

Bobk
 
I take it your last survey is more than two years old? I changed insurance in May. They accepted the purchase survey from May two years ago.
 
I take it your last survey is more than two years old? I changed insurance in May. They accepted the purchase survey from May two years ago.

My previous survey was eleven years ago so it is time. Travelers accepted that policy when it was almost five years old.

Bob
 
About 18 month back, BoatUS who has insured my 48 LRC for 17 years decided that an in the water survey was in order.

Turns out all boat in my area insured by BoatUS got the same treatment. It appears that they were interested in establishing what they were insuring and to get a new market value for the next renewal, or decision to not offer a renewal.

Factually what the survey involved is listed below, with a total time of around 6 hours spent by the surveyor. BTW, I was impressed by the surveyor, way better than most I have encountered. By percentage of time devoted to the subject:

50% to inventory of the boat, all electronics including serial numbers, serial numbers of absolutely everything down to the engines and reverse gears, even picked up on an error in the Hatteras owners manual which had the reverse gear ratio misstated.

40% to safety, navigation lights, fire extinguishers, electrical inspection of everything, testing of all bilge pumps, ground fault testing, seacocks, bonding system, everything done with an annual courtesy inspection, down to inspection of the contents of every drawer and locker.

10% enquiring as to what on the boat had been replaced with new, rebuilt, added, removed. He asked that I give him a sales pitch of what made the boat really special for a prospective buyer.

I was invited and accepted to be present for the entire survey and assisted where two people could check things quicker and to show how to turn things on and off. There was no mallet tapping on the fiberglass for soft spots. No request to start the engines, generator, bow thruster, AC, etc.

Finally, the surveyor was working with a set of preprinted form, likely supplied by the insurance company. It was a fill in the blanks type report being completed.

That is what I experienced, again an in the water survey without leaving the dock.

Pete
 
Not to get off subject, but I just got my renewal from BoatUS/Gieco, noting that due to my claims free 16 years of insurance through BoatUS they were only raising my insurance premium another $530 dollars to cover the cost to insure my boat. As best I can tell they have spent zero to insure my boat for 16 years except for administrative costs.

Pete
 
Until you need it once Pete.

Walt
 
Not to get off subject, but I just got my renewal from BoatUS/Gieco, noting that due to my claims free 16 years of insurance through BoatUS they were only raising my insurance premium another $530 dollars to cover the cost to insure my boat. As best I can tell they have spent zero to insure my boat for 16 years except for administrative costs.

Pete

Ask for and READ the policy details. There are some nasty changes to the Geico policy this year.

Bobk
 
Bobk, would you share what changes you are aware of in the new Gieco policy. The "CliffsNotes" version if you are willing. I am on the verge of going shopping for alternative coverage.

Thanks,

Pete
 
Bobk, another question. Based on your first post in this thread I decided I would check out Seaworthy. As best I can determine, Seaworthy is Gieco wearing a different badge. Is this your understanding? Do they write a different policy from BoatUS underwritten by Gieco?

Thanks,

Pete
 
Bobk, another question. Based on your first post in this thread I decided I would check out Seaworthy. As best I can determine, Seaworthy is Gieco wearing a different badge. Is this your understanding? Do they write a different policy from BoatUS underwritten by Gieco?

Thanks,

Pete

Pete, There seem to be some differences. But remember I'm using the MTOA version of the policy. I'll see if I can paste in the pertinent comments from our insurance director. The major change is to depreciation which now includes hull depreciation on older boats.

Bobk
 
Bobk, I am also a member of MTOA, so maybe there is reason for a closer inspection on my part. As the owner of a 1976 hull, older hull depreciation would be very interesting.

Thanks

Pete
 

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