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Sadly we don't know if there will be long term issues from the vaccines but we do know there is from the disease.

Its an amazing accomplishment for the development so quickly. Its also a small enough dose that we can hope our bodies can overcome any side effects.

The choices all suck. I can't risk getting some family members sick. I probably would have little if any issues with the virus personally. Do I wait and see ? Do I isolate my family forever?

What gets me is the people who don't care about others they may infect. We all need to be responsible for our actions but to keep doing things like nothing is happening endangers those around you. Take yourself out if you want but try to not spread the disease. Miami had 10x the transmission rate as Cocoa Beach. Maybe it was because of the way people in the areas dealt with it. Then again many in Miami had the not my problem attitude.
 
I agree with Pascal my business was building biohazardous waste incinerators mainly for the major pharmaceutical and government research labs. We burned everything from mice to radioactive cows that they used for testing. I still have many fri that are in the labs. Every one of them said a safe vaccine takes 5-7 years to develop. True that red tape was cut to push these out but people getting these now are the guinea pigs. I’m not an anti vaxer but I know first hand how screwed up most of these pharmas are I’ve burned their mistakes before. And these masks even N95 is only 95% efficient. Unless your wearing a NBC nuclear biological chemical respirator they are just a placebo to make the general public feel like they have some control and comfort. Would you walk into an asbestos remediation site with a cloth or uncertified paper mask? Asbestos may kill you in 20 years but for “ the most deadly virus” your good to go? Give me a break.
I agree with you and Pascal. This Was hyped up by the media as usual. The wife and I are not getting the vac Vaccine. We've been to Florida 5 times since last Jan 2020 - Nov 2020 and once this year In Jan 2021. Most all hospitals in Illinois have used corona virus as the cause of deaths, that is just un true. So no one in over a year died from a car accident, heart condition, cancer. I find that hard to believe. My mom passed away in a nursing home, we were told she had corona virus, the issue is that the protical is to remove the person from all the medication their on and just treat the corona virus. So you take people off of heart meds, lung meds, chemo and radiation treatments and of course now they have a 90% chance or more of dying.
 
We had Moderna and both of us had some discomfort at the shot site.

What gets me, is that masks and sanitizing stopped the flu, but meanwhile CV roared?
 
We had Moderna and both of us had some discomfort at the shot site. What gets me, is that masks and sanitizing stopped the flu, but meanwhile CV roared?
Millions get flu shots annually BEFORE flu season.
 
We had Moderna and both of us had some discomfort at the shot site.

What gets me, is that masks and sanitizing stopped the flu, but meanwhile CV roared?


If you read the fine print under the stats, all deaths and illness from the seasonal flus as well as any pneumonia are usually counted as COVID19 by the CDC's "COVID-Tracker." On some charts they call it "ILI" for influenza-like illness. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

The kids brought home a bad cold a couple months ago and I got checked for COVID, even though we all already had it in Feb, 2000...as confirmed by an antibody test in May. I'd bet a couple of those 12v converters I made the stats as afflicted with whatever.
 

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