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I'm not prone to seasickness, but....

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And my wife wants to go on a cruise......yeah right !


Question though:

If this ship was caught in a cyclone, how was the helicopter able to stay so steady ?
 
There's something fishy about this, like he said. If the wind is so bad, why is the camera so steady? The helicopter is hovering.
 
the desciption mentions the med... no cyclones/hurricanes there... just strong storms.
 
I don't make any claims about the film. I didn't author the thing, and I didn't film it. Let's face it, people can say anything on the internet, and most people don't know diddly about what a cyclone is. Cyclone, tropical depression or severe storm, it looks pretty snotty out there to me.

BTW, I have no experience with this (and never want any thanks), but how does the Coast Guard rescue people with helicopters if you can't hover in severe weather? :confused: Maybe we have a rotary-wing pilot out there who can give us some insight on the limits of these things.
 
I have a bit over 2000 hours in helicopters, courtesy of the US Army many years ago. The video looks ok to me. Keep in mind that the ship is dealing with the wind and the wave action caused by the winds over an extended period. The chopper has only the wind to worry about which though quite high is probably fairly steady.

There's no real problem hovering in high wind - you adjust the attitude to whatever it takes to remain stationery. In theory you could hover into a wind moving at up to the maximum speed of the helicopter! Hovering is a lot harder in gusty winds but with experience it's not really a problem.

Some current choppers have computer-controlled auto-hover which probably makes hovering -which used to be the most difficult thing to learn - a non-issue. I have no experience with that capability.
 
A cyclone is a hurricane only in another part of the world. Same thing just a different name.


BILL
 
Bill ............good to hear from you I missed your call for fishing Saturday before you left but I'm sure you saw it was small craft advisory and 3-5 footers :( oh well next time your in town well do it....
also your half right on the cyclones it's when they start on the south side of the equaitor like the ones that hit japan....???anyone can check that info???
 
my point was that warm core storms (cyclones, huricanes, etc..) dont' form in the med. doesnt' mean cold core storms cant' be severe obviously, i think the folks from new england have noreasters that were as strong if not more that some tropical systems...

in any case, i wonder what the story is there.. that ship looks like it's not making headway.

planes can hover too :-) years ago I remembers seing a Fiseler Storch hovering in strong winds... i think the stall speed on these things is like 35kts.. winds where higher than his stall speed and he was in effect hovering.
 
Wow, if I had been on that ship, I would have lost it...that looks really bad. No where to run and hide... :eek:
 
I thought a typhoon was a hurricane. So is a cyclone, hurricane and typhoon the same thing?
 
Yep, just depends on where they happen. Although in Texas I think they refer to tornados as cyclones. If that's true it's the only thing that's smaller in Texas.

BTW, thanks for the input on the helicopters.
 
One thing for sure, that boat was rockin and rolling !
 
Now if a hurricane in the Northern hemisphire spins counter clockwise ( I had to go and flush to make sure ) then a typhon in the Southern hemisphire would turn clockwise , now that is the question :confused:

Also why is there so many hurricanes ,storms , tornados and such in the northern hemisphire only , nothing happens down south except floods? :confused:
 
Funny you should mention that. I've heard that North America has the worst weather in the world. They may get monsoons in the Asia-Pacific region and Typhoons in the Pacific. But where else can you get Hurricanes, Tornados and Nor'easters all in one place. We had guests from Europe during hurricane Gloria and they were just agog at what was going on. It's also my understanding that during the Revolutionary War the British soldiers were stunned by the ferocity of the thunderstorms in the colonies.

Back on topic: I wonder if there were passengers on that ship and if they got a refund?
 
" Agog " you sound like that Oreck vacuum guy :D
the only thing the passengers got back where soiled under pants :D I don't think even the most seasoned sailor could have kept his cookies down on that voyage :o
if your in the rear of that boat your moving up 30ft down 30ft and side to side 30ft :eek: they don't even have that at Bush gardens or Six Flags etc....
 
You're right. I should have said aghast. I got distracted while I was typing because I noticed I was out of Grey Poupon. ;)

People pay money to go to Six Flags and hurl, but if it happens on their cruise they want a refund. I don't get it.
 
Mike is right on about the helicopter issue. In fact with more breeze it is easier to hover as you are really just flying forward at low speed and the control is easier. Even low time helo pilots can do it. The cameraman was sitting right rear and that's why all footage of vessel was port side as the pilot isn't going to hover facing downwind. Even though this was shot with a handheld camera they can have some very efficient steady shot features. If it had been shot from an aircraft mounted flir ball the image wouldn't have moved at all...

Cool footage and even though I probably would have been barfing with the rest of them it would have been the ride of a lifetime. Wonder how much damage and how many broken bones?
 
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