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Hot Dog He Took My Offer ! ! !

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41' CONVERTBLE-Series I (1964 - 1971)
:D All right! :D He took my offer on the 41 Convertible. Now I need to find someone to haul her down here to Louisiana, from Port Huron Mi. I have a quote of $5.00 per. mile from the fellow that hauled "Sea-Wise" for me from N.J. last December. However he only charged $2.60 per. mile for her. I suppose being wider and longer, and fuel cost have gone up. But I think I might just do some comparative shopping anyway. Any suggestions?? Now what I would really like to do is to bring her home buy way of water. Lake Huron, :rolleyes: Lake Michigan, Chicago canel, Mississippi River, :rolleyes: what a trip huh...
Also I now have a "nice" 34C that needs a new home. Pictures are on my info page. If anyone knows someone looking, let me know. I will also list her in the for sale section.
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How much was your offer??? I am looking at a 1968 41 twin cabbin and would like to know a comprataive on what to offer. Thanks
 
I shipped my 46 convertible from Tampa to San Diego. I removed the flybridge (to make height) and used a company called Marine Xpress (headquartered in Everett, WA).

They were the best of three quotes at that time. The driver was great. He called me when he left, and a couple days later to report on his progress. He called me daily when stalled at the AZ border waiting for special permit approval.

When it arrived (within a day of the estimate even with permit hang up) the boat was secured well, and the truck and trailer were in excellent condition. I was pleased with their price, equipment, service, and the driver.

I must add this disclaimer however, this happened in May 2000, so my info is a little old...

Good luck..
 
Hey, C.Y. Manley: Clint from up the road in Folsom here. I can recommend a great Captain who came to me highly recommended. His name is Don Harper. He is based in the Tampa/St Pete/Clearwater area. His rate is attractive and he has a history of being very good. Give me an email offline and I'll provide his ph#, etc if you're interested.

Clint
 
Take the water route. It's a great trip and you'll really get to know your new boat. I will admit, though, that the Mississippi is really the worst part of the trip. Above St. Louis see is pretty, but below is just kind of a muddy mess. The Illinois is nice, as is the Tennessee.

Congrats
 
Go by water, if at all possible. Removing and reinstalling a flybridge for overland travel is complicated and must be done correctly. The water trip would be fun and memorable.

Richard
 
Need captain/crew?

I might be available, depending on schedule. I hold a 50GT Masters, and run a 43C on Long Island Sound. Sounds like a great trip.
Bob
 
CY - Here's the math. I'd take the water route. Bring your wife. Hire a USCG captain. You'll have fun, learn LOTS and save the money and hassle of taking the flybridge off (and they never go back together exactly the same). But it's not cheaper than trucking it. It's more expensive, and worth it.

I looked up my schedule from the last half of our trip from St Lawrence Seaway to Chicago and also our trip up the Missouri River last year. Detroit to Harborside Marina (IL River mile 272) took 10 days incl. 3 weather days in port (I had my wife along and the boat can take more than the crew can). Harborside Marina to Alton, IL on the Mississippi took 5 days.

This is a 53MY. Cruise speed about 14 knots plus 30 min at 17 knots per day, except crossing Lake Michigan where we did 16.5-17.5 knots on plane for 7 hours straight. Running hours are real engine turning hours including harbors, going to fuel docks, no wakes, etc.

Day1 Day in Port (weather)
Day 2 Detroit via Lake Huron to Harrisville, MI Run Hrs=10 nm=150 nm/hr=15.0
Day 3 Harrisville to Macinac City Run Hrs = 11 nm=132 nm/hr=12.0
Day 4 Day in Port (weather)
Day 5 To Sleeping Bear Dunes Nat'l Park (Leland) Run Hrs=7 nm=91 nm/hr=13.0
Day 6 Leland, MI to Ludington, MI Run Hrs=8 nm=98 nm/hr=12.0
Day 7 Stay (weather)
Day 8 Cross Lake Michigan to Northpoint Marina IL Run Hrs=11 nm=125 nm/hr=14.0
Day 9 Northpoint to Burnham Harbor, Chicago Run Hrs=4 nm=50 nm/hr=12.5
Day 10 Chicago to Harborside Marina (IL mile 272) Run Hrs=11 nm=70 nm/hr=6.4
Day 11 Harborside Marina to Buffalo Rock Run Hrs=6 nm=40 nm/hr=6.7
Day 12 Arrive Peoria Run Hrs=7 nm=70 nm/hr=10.0
Day 13 Anchor out Run Hrs=8 nm=60 nm/hr=7.5
Day 14 Anchor out Run Hrs=7 nm=60 nm/hr=8.6
Day 15 Arrive Alton Marina Run Hrs=6 nm=60 nm/hr=10.0
Day 16-25 Mississippi River to Baton Rouge Run Hrs=95 nm=950 nm/hr=10.0

If you keep her at Baton Rouge, that's mile 230 of the Lower Mississippi and Alton is mile 203 of the Upper Mississippi. So.....
Alton to the Ohio River confluence is 203 nm, which is mile 980 of the Lower Mississippi.
Then mile 980 to Baton Rouge at mile 230 is an additional 750 nm.
Therefore, it's 950 nm on the Mississippi after you spend 10 days to get to Alton, IL. At a fast average of 95 nm per day including time for the locks, that's 10 days on the Mississippi at least. I don't know if you can really do 95 nm/day on the lower Mississippi. You gotta be careful of your wake on all river systems and slow to idle in "No Wake Zones".
If ya' got 25 days to go 2,086 nm, even if you break it up into 4 week long segments, it'd be great fun.
If your boat burns 1.5 gal/nm then it's 3,100 gals. of diesel at $2.50 = $7,800 in fuel.
18 or so transient slips @ 1.50 to $2 per foot is another $1,300.
Food at $30/day is $750.
USCG Captain @ $150/day to Harborside Marina is $1,650 if you can get your wife as first mate for rest of the trip home.
I guess it's about $12,000 for the whole trip.

1,200 miles by truck @ $5/mi is $6000.

Doug Shuman
 
I'd definitely run it rather than truck it.

But that's me. I ran my 45C from Ft. Lauderdale (where I bought her) to Destin, which was five running days, and cost about $2,500 in fuel.

The trip was worth every nickel, and I'd do it today again, even with fuel being about twice as much.
 
It usually all comes down to time, not usually money. A previous post documenting cost and running time and ended with a comparison. I think you need to figure in a cost for loading, taking the bridge apart, and putting it all back together again. It will cost quite a bit. Add that to the shipping cost and it will probably be about the same. It's also a pain to find someone who will do it right, and remember the yard or you, at the other end needs to understand how to reassemble.

Have Fun.
 
CY,

It also matters if you really believe your boat is up to a 2,000 mile cruise.

If you do, you could add another 250 miles and turn it into the cruise of a lifetime by going up the Ohio, down the Tennessee and Tombigbee rivers to Mobile and avoid the 750 nasty Mississippi miles. That's the way ALL the Great Circle Route cruisers go and it's really beautiful, has lots of books available on ports and marinas to stay at, and same mileage to Mobile as Baton Rouge. The extra 250 miles is to go by the Gulf back to Baton Rouge from Mobile.

Also note - either way you get it home by water, it has to get down to 19.1 ft. clearance or less to get under the lowest non-opening bridge to get out of Lake Michigan. It's at mile 300 of the Illinois River in the Cal-Sag Channel. Probably no issue for your boat, but I have to fold my radar arch to clear.

Doug
 
Well, if you really want to try your new boat out you could take the route from Lake MI to Huron, St. Clair River to Detroit, across Lake St. Clair to Lake Erie, arriving in Buffalo, figure three to four days depending on where in MI the boat is. From Buffalo, (free dockage at my house) you can either take the Erie Canal, (very easy and beautiful) or the Welland (I'll be in the Welland this Fri, fun wow.) either will get you home. The Welland can be a pain and you won't save any time but it is interesting. You enter the canal at Oswego which connects to the NYS Barge system at Syracuse. The Erie canal system connects to the Hudson and down to NY City. Figure about 11 days from where you started. From there it's an easy trip down the east coast. You know the rest. Entering New York Harbor from the Hudson is something you will never forget. I have purchased three boats in New England and brought them back by water to Buffalo, the NYC part of the trip is so exciting. I shipped one boat via land and will not do it again. It took three years of fooling around to finally get everything electrical working again. Tony D
 
From what you say on the other page and from the photos, it looks like you got a good one. I was eyeing this one about 1 -2 years ago.

Do you plan to change engines?
 

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