Sam's is your source for Hatteras and Cabo Yacht parts.

Enter a part description OR part number to search the Hatteras/Cabo parts catalog:

Email Sam's or call 1-800-678-9230 to order parts.

Gun Controll

  • Thread starter Thread starter 67hat34c
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 17
  • Views Views 8,064

67hat34c

Legendary Member
Joined
Apr 18, 2005
Messages
1,929
Status
  1. OTHER
Hatteras Model
Not Currently A Hatteras Owner
I guess I missed the legistlation that would have banned hand guns. Supreme court shot it down from what I just read on CNN. Saw a photo of some pro gun protesters and on had a sign that stated:

If guns kill people then do pens misspell words?

Thought it was one of the best protest signs.
 
I guess I missed the legistlation that would have banned hand guns. Supreme court shot it down from what I just read on CNN. Saw a photo of some pro gun protesters and on had a sign that stated:

If guns kill people then do pens misspell words?

Thought it was one of the best protest signs.

:) Good one I can't believe they spend time on crap like that, it is part of what built this country. They should spend time on fixing real problem's. If they take our guns away well then only people that break the law will have them Duh :( That sure will fix the problems!!!
 
This case came from a man who challenged the ban on handguns in the District of Columbia. It is good to see the court interpret the Constitution as it was written, but it's still sad to see a 5-4 decision. This should have been unanimous.
 
This case came from a man who challenged the ban on handguns in the District of Columbia. It is good to see the court interpret the Constitution as it was written, but it's still sad to see a 5-4 decision. This should have been unanimous.

Yes good point that 5-4 also threw me that is Scary!!!!!!
 
My favorite firearms quote is, "Gun control means using BOTH hands!"
 
Yeh the split 5-4 decision means all they need is a few more liberal judges and the s will start to fly even worse than it is now.

Taking my 12 yr old daughter to the range on sunday, got her first gun about 1.5yrs ago.

Gun controll is teaching your daughter how to shoot.
 
Two thoughts come to mind. One, this is a boon to the Democratic party: those moderates & independants who were voting their second amendment rights no longer need fear that an Obama administration (or any other) will take their guns away. This may free them up to vote based upon other issues.
Second, this is the death knell for the NRA. No longer can they rely upon fear of the "gun grabbers" for fund raising. After the state and muncipal challanges work their way through the courts (perhaps 4 to 6 years) their reason for existance is gone and they can go back to being a hunters club again. This is somewhat analagous to the decline of the unions over the years since the federal government enshrined many of their issues into law ie. workplace safety, work hours, overtime etc.

BTW I am a NRA member and own over 20 firearms including some described as "assault weapons".
 
Some timing, I just got this in my email.

Enjoy,

Captned


By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment o f force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footin g with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single gay guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a poten tial attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized so ciety. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act
 
BRAVO !! It would be great to say to a mugger "Get lost!" and have him just leave. Better yet a sidearm would negate the question of being accosted in the first place. ws
 
Get your permits, hand guns, and long rifles now. Today is the easiest it is ever going to be!!

By the way, if you are looking for a nice composit carry gun that is an alternative to the Keltek 380, Ruger just came out with an almost twin that doesn't jam nearly as much. Ours just came in.

K
 
Gun Laws or lack of gun laws, it's better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6!!!

JM
 
I like this one "If guns kill people then a spoon made Rosie fat!"
 
Yeh the split 5-4 decision means all they need is a few more liberal judges and the s will start to fly even worse than it is now.

Taking my 12 yr old daughter to the range on sunday, got her first gun about 1.5yrs ago.

Gun controll is teaching your daughter how to shoot.


Nice video of your daughter at the range. Thinking of taking mine this week.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKfI95iXROs
 
Last edited:
I haven't posted in a long time, but continue to read and learn from you guys and gals. This pro gun decision (thank God) is better than a loss, but a 5 to 4 victory only means that we will fight this another day. These anti gun zealots are the same people that advocate the no fishing zones to protect innocent fish! They will try to zone sport fishing out of existance.They will not go away, and when Barack Hussein O'bama takes over this country, it will no longer resemble anything close to the USA. Teach your families how to defend themselves, because our Govt will certainly not.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but the British and Canadians do not allow gun ownership by citizen's. The Bobbies in England have started to carry weapons, because, to their great amazement, criminals carry them; crime is way up over there, because in truth the criminals have the weapons and citizens are defenseless.

Before WWII, Germans were disarmed, which effectively prevented resistance by the populace. Russians were killed by the 10's and 20's of millions by a "government" against which they could not defend themselves. China for all its tremendous economic advancement, still disallows gun ownership and is very draconian in its justice. If you remember the Chinese issues over lead paint in toys, etc., the senior most Sino official in charge was executed; that's in the last two years. They don't hand wring in those countries.

Patrick Henry who, in our childhood, rode through the streets crying the British are coming, after "1 if by land, 2 if by sea", when the yet to be US was invaded, did so, because his family had just come from Europe, where troops (the government) had invaded his family's home. They fled to America to avoid that.

I do not own weapons, either hand or rifle. But I certainly do not wish to be denied the right to purchase. At least in MI we have the right to carry, in addition to the right to own. I absolutely would carry, if my job constantly took me to the "wrong" (read high crime) areas.

Very recently heard, on talk radio, natch, that one of the lowest murder rates in the world is in Israel, where many are required to be members of the military and also to openly carry weapons in public. Weapons are seen publicly everywhere there. Start a problem and there are many around you to stop it!

Not sure what my point was here, but very glad for the decision now. It may get scary after Nov'08. New Supremes will be coming.
 
The Swiss also have mandatory service of all healthy males under the age of 50 or so. Nearly every home has a closet with a uniform and a government issued assault rifle. Even the Nazi's in WWII would not cross their border.
Just like Isreal, they also have a very low crime rate.

Responsible gun ownership is part of the security of not only your home, but the nation as a whole. The key operative word here is responsible. That means keeping guns out of reach of those who are not responsible. Some in government feel most Americans can not be trusted to be responsible, therefore all guns should be forfeited. (I hope their desire for a gun free country is not part of a more dangerous plan - disarming and complete autocratic rule of the populace, but it's possible)
 
As Col. Jeff Cooper said, "An armed society is a polite society!"
 

Forum statistics

Threads
38,156
Messages
448,735
Members
12,482
Latest member
UnaVida

Latest Posts

Trending content

Back
Top Bottom