gulf coast rendezvous

[ThirdHatt]

First, my feathers aren't ruffled. Second, since when is it a "privelege" to ask questions on this forum and what did my question have to do with my not having taken a boat to a rendezvous?

As for Diesel Don, I did call him for the second time after so many of you gave him such glowing reviews. We talked a bit and he asked me to follow up with an email, which I did. He was to contact me when he had time to check out my engine, but I never heard from him again. Sorry, I'm not chasing an over-priced prima donna.

This engine may only be suffering from one burned piston, or it may be something much more serious. As it stands, I have two guys who say they can get me up and running this winter when they have the time to spend. Things have finally settled down on the home and financial front a bit, so one way or the other, I'll have that engine running by spring or there will be another one (or two) in there.

Thanks again for your concern.

I just thought it was funny that the guy who hasn't brought his boat to anything is questioning how far others have traveled out of their way, that's all. Pretty ironic.

About Diesel Don, apparently (according to you) he is the only Detroit mechanic in your area and prima-donna or not we were all hoping he would just do the patch-job that you wanted and get you up and running. Sometimes really busy people will not chase the little jobs, so it does not surprise me that he didn't make the effort to get your job. This is why I called him to ask him to help you, but I guess he ignored my request. Oh well, I tried.

Remember that the consensus by all the experts here is that by far the odds are that it is just the one burned piston, nothing more. Unfortunately, you may actually have to hire someone or ask a favor and have someone travel to you to confirm what the extent of the damage is.

All joking aside, that is fantastic news that things are shaping up for you. We all joke and kid alot here on this forum, but we all care about each other, our boats and our overall well-being. I truly wish you the best of luck with everything, and really hope that your 58 is traveling south next year. Now, remember, if you travel down here and attend the rendezvous but continue on to Florida to visit more friends, it will not count by your own requirements.


GOOD LUCK!

 

[Sparky1]

I forget how paranoid you can be Byron, but there was no ulterior motive in my asking how far someone had traveled to attend a rendezvous. It was a question based on simple curiosity. I fail to see any irony.

You go from accusing me of not calling back Diesel Don to defending him for not wanting to take on a job he can't buy a new car with. This after admitting he never called you back either. Does he not know who you are?

As you may recall, this guy quoted $4K per hole (plus expenses) to rebuild a 12V71N. That was over two years ago when I was first made aware of his services. To put that into perspective, captddis' friend, Diesel Roger, quoted me a worst case scenario of $30K to install a brand new Reliabuilt long block, complete with warranty.

I doubt I'll come by boat to the next Gulf coast rendezvous as that would still be some 800 miles one way. Maybe I'll see about recruiting some of the Hatteras owners on the river to stage a rendezvous on Pickwick or Guntersville someplace. You up for a little trip up the Tenn-Tom?

If I can negotiate those locks on one engine with a 58, I'm sure you could do it with two. A freshwater vacation would do the ole' gal good. Sort of like one of those high dollar enemas you rich folks enjoy.

 

[ThirdHatt]

I forget how paranoid you can be Byron, but there was no ulterior motive in my asking how far someone had traveled to attend a rendezvous. It was a question based on simple curiosity. I fail to see any irony.

You go from accusing me of not calling back Diesel Don to defending him for not wanting to take on a job he can't buy a new car with. This after admitting he never called you back either. Does he not know who you are?

As you may recall, this guy quoted $4K per hole (plus expenses) to rebuild a 12V71N. That was over two years ago when I was first made aware of his services. To put that into perspective, captddis' friend, Diesel Roger, quoted me a worse case scenario of $30K to install a brand new Reliabuilt long block, complete with warranty.

I doubt I'll come by boat to the next Gulf coast rendezvous as that would still be some 800 miles one way. Maybe I'll see about recruiting some of the Hatteras owners on the river to stage a rendezvous on Pickwick or Guntersville someplace. You up for a little trip up the Tenn-Tom?

If I can negotiate those locks on one engine with a 58, I'm sure you could do it with two. A freshwater vacation would do the ole' gal good. Sort of like one of those high dollar enemas you rich folks enjoy.

No paranoia here, it was quite obvious that you discounted my travel distance simply because I was already taking a trip.

You wouldn't call Diesel Don back to follow up after sending one email and a month of waiting. That's not my choice, it was yours. I even called him to remind him for you because you were too proud or whatever. I do not know him nor does he know me. I did not ask him to call me, I simply called saying I was a friend of yours and you really would appreciate a call back to follow up.

I do recall the $4k per hole quote for rebuild and you will recall that quote included both teardown and buildup. You already have the engine town down, so your cost would be significantly less. Add his travel time costs and we're back to the $3-5k estimate to have the right guy (overpriced prima donna or not) do the job right. Apparently instead you have chosen to wait until a fellow HOF member is generous enough to come save you some money(like Krush with your A/C). Good for you, I hope that works out for you.

I think it's a great idea for you to start your own renedvous up there, that is one way that you could surely get a boat there. As far as my going up there, I think I'll pass. I am not the one who has made it a life mission to attend all Hatteras rendezvous, I'll leave that to you.

 

[Sparky1]

No paranoia here, it was quite obvious that you discounted my travel distance simply because I was already taking a trip.

You wouldn't call Diesel Don back to follow up after sending one email and a month of waiting. That's not my choice, it was yours. I even called him to remind him for you because you were too proud or whatever. I do not know him nor does he know me. I did not ask him to call me, I simply called saying I was a friend of yours and you really would appreciate a call back to follow up.

I do recall the $4k per hole quote for rebuild and you will recall that quote included both teardown and buildup. You already have the engine town down, so your cost would be significantly less. Add his travel time costs and we're back to the $3-5k estimate to have the right guy (overpriced prima donna or not) do the job right. Apparently instead you have chosen to wait until a fellow HOF member is generous enough to come save you some money(like Krush with your A/C). Good for you, I hope that works out for you.

I think it's a great idea for you to start your own renedvous up there, that is one way that you could surely get a boat there. As far as my going up there, I think I'll pass. I am not the one who has made it a life mission to attend all Hatteras rendezvous, I'll leave that to you.

ROFLOL!! This is better than any soap opera I've seen lately.

I didn't "discount" your travel distance, I just simply reminded you of the specific question I asked. Regardless of the state of teardown my engine is in, that $4K per hole quote just showed me what I was up against with using this guy in comparison with Dave's contact. Once again you go jumping to conclusions about an HOF member coming to my rescue and fixing my engine. Hate to disappoint you bub, but the Detroit Diesel world doesn't revolve around this forum. The two guys I mentioned are local DD mechanics, plain and simple. If that doesn't work out, I'll yank the thing and take it to a truck shop if it proves to need a total rebuild/replacement.

As for krush saving me money, ROFLOL again!!!! I spent more money feeding, watering, and riding him around than I would have spent to have somebody else do what he did for free. He and I have spoken many times on the Internet and phone over the years and have become friends. He had an airplane, some freon, a need for hours, and some free time along with never having seen this part of the country. On top of that, the boy was lonely with his wife being out of the country. He spent about an hour working on the boat with the rest of our time spent just having fun. I had fun, how about you Jay? LOL

You really are a trip Byron! Are you sure you didn't vote for Obama?

 

[ThirdHatt]

ROFLOL!! This is better than any soap opera I've seen lately.

I didn't "discount" your travel distance, I just simply reminded you of the specific question I asked. Regardless of the state of teardown my engine is in, that $4K per hole quote just showed me what I was up against with using this guy in comparison with Dave's contact. Once again you go jumping to conclusions about an HOF member coming to my rescue and fixing my engine. Hate to disappoint you bub, but the Detroit Diesel world doesn't revolve around this forum. The two guys I mentioned are local DD mechanics, plain and simple. If that doesn't work out, I'll yank the thing and take it to a truck shop if it proves to need a total rebuild/replacement.

As for krush saving me money, ROFLOL again!!!! I spent more money feeding, watering, and riding him around than I would have spent to have somebody else do what he did for free. He and I have spoken many times on the Internet and phone over the years and have become friends. He had an airplane, some freon, a need for hours, and some free time along with never having seen this part of the country. On top of that, the boy was lonely with his wife being out of the country. He spent about an hour working on the boat with the rest of our time spent just having fun. I had fun, how about you Jay? LOL

You really are a trip Byron! Are you sure you didn't vote for Obama?

OH, so there ARE other Detroit mechanics in your area? EXCELLENT! I seem to recall on one of your past engine threads that you claimed that there were none near you, other than Diesel Don.

Glad to hear (again) that you plan to hire a mechanic to fix your engine. While I am certainly hopeful, you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath. One thing I do know for certain is that you have tried on several occasions to get HOF members to come fix your engine for you (YachtsmanBill, Silverado, Boatsb, etc). It hasn't worked out so far, so hopefully your new plan will.

Remember no matter how hard you try to overcomplicate this ONE burned hole, you really do not need a whole new engine.

Once again, best of luck to you!

 

[Avenger]

Sorry, can't resist....

 

[ThirdHatt]

Re: Sorry, can't resist....

Good stuff huh? I bet this is better than any soap opera Sparky watches!

TOO MUCH FUN!!

By the way Scrod, I LOVE your quote!

 

[Sparky1]

OH, so there ARE other Detroit mechanics in your area? EXCELLENT! I seem to recall on one of your past engine threads that you claimed that there were none near you, other than Diesel Don.

Glad to hear (again) that you plan to hire a mechanic to fix your engine. While I am certainly hopeful, you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath. One thing I do know for certain is that you have tried on several occasions to get HOF members to come fix your engine for you (YachtsmanBill, Silverado, Boatsb, etc). It hasn't worked out so far, so hopefully your new plan will.

Remember no matter how hard you try to overcomplicate this ONE burned hole, you really do not need a whole new engine.

Once again, best of luck to you!

Thanks Byron, you're so sweet!

It's just so amazing that you've determined I've tried to "overcomplicate this ONE burned hole" when you've never seen the engine. FYI, the members you referenced have made the initial contacts with me that they may in fact be able to fix this engine. Who knows, maybe one of them still will. I'd rather spend money with friends as opposed to spending it with strangers.

Speaking of friends, it was through another boating forum friend (who I've since met in person) that I found these other mechanics. Good thing I haven't reached the point where I have all the friends I need huh?

Gosh, I remember a time when you would have been critical of this type conversation as one that should have been done by PM. This one sure does get the tech and social aspect intertwined huh?

Imagine that!

 

[Sparky1]

Re: Sorry, can't resist....

Hey Derek, do you know where that popcorn's been?

 

[ThirdHatt]

You are right Randy, I have not seen your engine (and apparently nobody else has looked at it in almost 3 years!) and I am no mechanic. All I know is what I have read in the many, many posts you have made describing in detail what happened to the engine and the many, many responses from very knowledgeable HOF members describing the potential damage and repairs required. They all agreed that the probability is just the one burned cylinder kit and MAYBE a scored crank. Unfortunately you will not listen and prefer to wonder about complete rebuilds and repowers, etc. Considering that, I'd say that all the talk about repowering and outboards on a bracket and replacing the engine with a $30k reman, etc is certainly overcomplicating things.

Once again that 12V71 is the dead horse that keeps getting beaten. Hopefully it will live to burn fuel another day, but at this rate who knows.

WOW that was fun! Unfortunately ole Freebird is still awaiting some love.

 

[Sparky1]

Repowering with outboards on brackets? No doubt there have been a number of jokes made about my situation, but unlike some people, I take them for what they are worth.

I listen to opinions, but that doesn't mean I don't consider options. Had there been more time, I would have had Roger drop the pan while he was preparing my port for the trip home two years ago this month. Until such time the bottom end is inspected, we're all just guessing.

That being said, there's no way on God's earth I'd put $30K into another 12V71N. That's why I've asked questions about repowering. Sorry if my asking questions based on theoretical situations causes you any grief. Then again, I'm really not.

As for ole' Freebird still awaiting some love, I've got your love right here.

Dang Byron, you sure have derailed this thread.

 

[ThirdHatt]

Repowering with outboards on brackets? No doubt there have been a number of jokes made about my situation, but unlike some people, I take them for what they are worth.

I listen to opinions, but that doesn't mean I don't consider options. Had there been more time, I would have had Roger drop the pan while he was preparing my port for the trip home two years ago this month. Until such time the bottom end is inspected, we're all just guessing.

That being said, there's no way on God's earth I'd put $30K into another 12V71N. That's why I've asked questions about repowering. Sorry if my asking questions based on theoretical situations causes you any grief. Then again, I'm really not.

As for ole' Freebird still awaiting some love, I've got your love right here.

Dang Byron, you sure have derailed this thread.

Until such time as the bottom's inspected? The engine let go 3 years ago! LOL

Hey, no grief here at all. I was one of the many offering support and advice on several occasions to encourage you to fix your damn boat. Theoretical situations, huh? Yes, apparently that was all it was because in theory you were going to fix your engine! LOL

So now, you turn ugly and flip me off for speaking the truth and say that I've derailed this thread? You are too funny! I LOVE YOU TOO Randy! What would we do without you? AH, I remember!

PEACE!

 

[Sparky1]

Hey, I made every effort to have this engine repaired the minute it developed the problem. No need in rehashing that again as you can use the search function if you need a refresher.

Most will remember what the forum would be like without me and my kind... a big snooze fest with little or no interaction which would lead to a thread about a rendezvous and/or Hatteras owners enjoying their boats and each other's company. I admit that's not as much fun as clogged heads, bottom blisters, and varnishing techniques, but some people enjoy it.

Now then, let's get this thread back on track. Was this the first rendezvous you attended on your own Hatt?

 

[Deckhand]

Back to the 2010 rendezvous, Please.

 

[Sparky1]

You planning on making the trip?

 

[Deckhand]

YEP, If I dont have to work. Wont know for sure until the schedule comes out in January.

 

[bigbill]

this page seems to be dead, can a moderator remove the "sticky" from it so it can move on? we will start a new thread when it gets closer to rendezvous time. thanls, bigbill