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Most Richard Noggins I know can't have a conversation without name
calling. But if that was a conotation as to Republican I will wear it. But a
richard noggin is a richard noggin no matter the circumstances.
calling. But if that was a conotation as to Republican I will wear it. But a
richard noggin is a richard noggin no matter the circumstances.
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Here is the video they should watch in the schools. it depicts him as the hero he is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgt6YQiZTkc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgt6YQiZTkc
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That's our boy!!! I knew he could only stay genteel long enough!
For those of you who don't know old Eric, it would have gotten physical by now if he was in the room with you. Ask me how I know!
There, MakoButtBoy, now you're not only on the wrong side of the big political issues, but you're also a physically dangerous sociopath...what're friends for?!!
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Seems old Blobama and his cronies had to pull back on the education and indoctrination for Tuesday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/white-house-withdraws-students-help-obama/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090904...zZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNvYmFtYXNwZWVjaHQ-
http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/8820828/Obama_speech_to_students_draws_conservative_ire
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/white-house-withdraws-students-help-obama/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090904...zZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNvYmFtYXNwZWVjaHQ-
http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/8820828/Obama_speech_to_students_draws_conservative_ire
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To be honest, I think a message to the kids by POTUS is a good thing IF the message was limited to “Do your best” and was meant to inspire the kids. I’m all for that.
Unfortunately there are a number of parents in this country, myself included, who fear this might be a subtle ploy to start the process of pushing left leaning, socialistic ideology on them. Judging by some of this administration actions and policies, not to mention some of the czar’s they’re recruited, I’m sorry to say this fear is justified. I wish it wasn’t like this.
A former KGB agent who defected to this country explained in an interview how to effect the desired ‘change’ in a country you’re trying to defeat. He said that back in the 60’s, the KGB targeted radicals, civil rights leaders, opinion makers, professors and the youth, who they could ‘push’ in the direction they wanted them to go. He commented that it would take a generation or two for the seeds of communism planted in the 60’s to germinate. Now, here we are. I’ve paraphrased but that was the gist of it. You can probably find the video on utube. I forget the man’s name.
The White House is using the National Endowment for the Arts to push their agenda. A lot of it will be aimed at the kids through the music they listen to. I had the pleasure of having to explain ‘propaganda’ to my 10 yr daughter after I listened to one of her favorite teen group singing about saving the planet. Not that conservation is a bad thing but what 12 yr old kid is gonna’ is gonna’ care about saving the planet and writing a song about it? Turns out this group doesn’t write their material. So who does? Again, pushing their agenda subtlety to the youth.
I’m not saying POTUS is gonna’ talk ‘em all into socialist. It’s just like how they attempt to get ‘control’ of the guns, one little step at a time, progressively. In Van Jones’s own words, “One of the things that has happened I think to often to progressives is that we don't understand the relationship between minimum goals and maximum goals. Right after Rosa Parks, refused to give up her seat, if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said, OK, now we want reparations for slavery, we want redistribution of all wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages, had that had been there, if they would have come out with a maximum program the very next day, they would have been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum program, you know, we just want to integrate these buses. The students a few years later came out with a very minimum program. We just want to sit at the lunch counter, but, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1954-1968, you know, complete revolution was on the table for this country and I think this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages. Right now we're saying we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to some kind of eco-capitalism where, you know, at least we're not, you know, fast-tracking destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won't be enough. We want to go beyond ex-systems of exploitation and oppression altogether. But that's a process and I think what's great about the movement that beginning to emerge is that the crisis is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both very pragmatic and very visionary. And so the green economy will start off as a small subset and we're going to push it and push it and push it, until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society.”
Don’t tell me I’m just seeing s##t, I’m not out looking for it. It is in plain sight. If ya’ can’t see it, you either are refusing too or perhaps you don’t understand what it is that others are seeing. Before you discount it, try to understand it and see for yourself.
My kids will go to school that day. No need to hide it from them. I’ll watch the video also and discuss BOTH sides of the issues with them as I do now. They can make up their own minds.
Unfortunately there are a number of parents in this country, myself included, who fear this might be a subtle ploy to start the process of pushing left leaning, socialistic ideology on them. Judging by some of this administration actions and policies, not to mention some of the czar’s they’re recruited, I’m sorry to say this fear is justified. I wish it wasn’t like this.
A former KGB agent who defected to this country explained in an interview how to effect the desired ‘change’ in a country you’re trying to defeat. He said that back in the 60’s, the KGB targeted radicals, civil rights leaders, opinion makers, professors and the youth, who they could ‘push’ in the direction they wanted them to go. He commented that it would take a generation or two for the seeds of communism planted in the 60’s to germinate. Now, here we are. I’ve paraphrased but that was the gist of it. You can probably find the video on utube. I forget the man’s name.
The White House is using the National Endowment for the Arts to push their agenda. A lot of it will be aimed at the kids through the music they listen to. I had the pleasure of having to explain ‘propaganda’ to my 10 yr daughter after I listened to one of her favorite teen group singing about saving the planet. Not that conservation is a bad thing but what 12 yr old kid is gonna’ is gonna’ care about saving the planet and writing a song about it? Turns out this group doesn’t write their material. So who does? Again, pushing their agenda subtlety to the youth.
I’m not saying POTUS is gonna’ talk ‘em all into socialist. It’s just like how they attempt to get ‘control’ of the guns, one little step at a time, progressively. In Van Jones’s own words, “One of the things that has happened I think to often to progressives is that we don't understand the relationship between minimum goals and maximum goals. Right after Rosa Parks, refused to give up her seat, if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said, OK, now we want reparations for slavery, we want redistribution of all wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages, had that had been there, if they would have come out with a maximum program the very next day, they would have been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum program, you know, we just want to integrate these buses. The students a few years later came out with a very minimum program. We just want to sit at the lunch counter, but, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1954-1968, you know, complete revolution was on the table for this country and I think this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages. Right now we're saying we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to some kind of eco-capitalism where, you know, at least we're not, you know, fast-tracking destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won't be enough. We want to go beyond ex-systems of exploitation and oppression altogether. But that's a process and I think what's great about the movement that beginning to emerge is that the crisis is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both very pragmatic and very visionary. And so the green economy will start off as a small subset and we're going to push it and push it and push it, until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society.”
Don’t tell me I’m just seeing s##t, I’m not out looking for it. It is in plain sight. If ya’ can’t see it, you either are refusing too or perhaps you don’t understand what it is that others are seeing. Before you discount it, try to understand it and see for yourself.
My kids will go to school that day. No need to hide it from them. I’ll watch the video also and discuss BOTH sides of the issues with them as I do now. They can make up their own minds.
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"Greg you are right in your thinking, as I think all presidents who are going to talk to the kids should talk about how to achieve their personal goals, by getting a good education and working hard in school. That is as far as it should go."
And you are right you can't put em in a bubble and expect them to do well when its time to hit the big world. Keeping my kids focused on school and doing the right things has been the hardest but most effortless work I have ever done. And with the greatest rewards I might add.
And you are right you can't put em in a bubble and expect them to do well when its time to hit the big world. Keeping my kids focused on school and doing the right things has been the hardest but most effortless work I have ever done. And with the greatest rewards I might add.
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You wrestle some with that big dumb horsedung Eric and see what you think after a few rounds, Dave! I've seen him endure some pretty rough miles and I don't think I've ever seen him hurt. Case in point: the boys down here have a fun little tradition that dear old Mr. Freebird has partaken of in recent years called the Tour de Bar. Basically a bicycle pubcrawl with about 5 stops all throughout the day. One year Captain Excitement (aka Evildoer Eric) ran head-on into one of the guys and got planted flat onto one of his elbows. He broke it in a pretty nasty way. He continued on the ride. Anyone who knows him knows he's been numb from the neck up for way too many years, so it was just another day for him.
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Speaking of the Tour de Bar and being numb from the neck up, tell us again about your adventure with the drive-thru window. This thread deals with the education of our children, so maybe this can serve as a learning experience for future generations. Consider it a public service announcement.
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No, Actually real rude!!!! and in this area not good. How can I send my kid (who at 3 yrs makes mincemeat of older boys... he he) here to read a diatribe of differing views if one person has to resort to cussing?
Now grab the bar of soap from your arse and...
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If that post offended you, I'm assuming you've not been reading much on here lately Noel.
At the risk of trying to get into the mind of the Mako, I do believe that was a little play on words used by Van Jones in regard to Republicans. I'm sure it wasn't anything personal toward Daryl.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/02/white-house-green-jobs-adviser-republicans-assholes/
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We were until you showed up and started talking about the Tour.
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Thanks Bro'.
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They are achangin in ways that make me wince... TV Show at 8 pm "Dance your @@s off? My god, the FCC is run by people who don't have children... BTW I am gonna listen to Obama and his address to make sure my kid is indoctrinated.... What a crock, if they get the stay in school and study part correct I will be happy!
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