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Detroit to Miami

Maynard Rupp

Maynard Rupp

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36' CONVERTIBLE-Series II (1983 - 1987)
I know alot about maintaining these boats, but as a lifetime fresh water boater I know nothing about corrosion, barnacles, tides and god knows what else. I am preparing our '86 36C ,"Unity", for a move from Detroit to Miami. I coated everything with BoShield T9. I did all the copper tubing, all the brass thru-hulls, all the adel clamps etc. I will coat the virgin aluminum floor supports with Krylon, I guess. Anything else that I need to do? Any suggestions about the trip. We plan on leaving just after Labor Day, crossing Lake Erie,(that I know about), the Erie canal, (don't know about locks), Hudson river,(here is where we encounter salt water), 35 miles of Atlantic, then inside all the way. I guess I have to go outside in Georgia as the ICW isn't maintained there etc. What else do I need to know? Are any of you close to this route that I can stop to say hello to? We have a Navman chart plotter with C-Map cards,(need to get the ones for the trip), and a laptop with all the charts and a Nobletech program. The laptop has a serial connecter at both the lower and flybridge station, and gets position data from the Navman. We also have a Navman fish finder/ fuel flow system and a new Icom DSC radio. I guess I will just strap it on and go eh?
 
Have you found a slip in Miami yet? That's the tough part!
 
Maynard,
I have done this trip in reverse, but it was about 25 years ago. If you have time, it will be a really enjoyable trip. The Erie canal is beautiful and the locks are easy to navigate. Be careful of your speed, though. They will time you between locks and make you wait if you go too fast.

Places to spend a few days: Annapolis, Charleston, Hilton Head are the big ones that come to mind.

As far as salt water: Wash, wash, wash. Get in the habit of washing that salt off as often as possible.
 
Ran the same route in reverse from Miami to Sandusky six years ago in our 37 Hat. Was an great time. There are some good books/charts that cover the Eric canel and the intercostal mile by mile, suggest picking these up.

Most important piece of electronics: Depth Sounder!!!!!!!!!!!

Most important spares: Props, Water pumps,
 
Once you get out of the Hudson DO NOT PLAN ON GOING INSIDE UNTIL YOU GET TO CAPE MAY unless it's just for fuel. A good stop is Atlantic Highlands inside of Sandy Hook where you will find the cheapest gas (if I remember you are gas) in the area. I keep my boat on the Navesink river in Red Bank and am moving to New Bern N.C. in 2 weeks. Will be taking the boat down the end of Sept. If you're going to be exiting the Hudson around that time we could go down together thru the Chesapeake and into the ditch. I'm also a sailor and race on a J44 who was doing the around Long Island race which started yesterday( however due to business I had to stay home) And I heard they dropped their rudder and are being towed in as we speak. Oh well good thing I didn't go. Let me know when youn plan on being around Sandy Hook outside N.Y. harbor and maybe we can hook up. Skip office 732 222 4600.
 
A few months back I remember something about a forum for Intercoastal water way maybe do a search or does anyone else know something. It can be useful because they are key spots that shoal up. We found one in my buddies boat just South of Wrightsville Beach N.C back 2 years ago. We where in-between two bouys when we Hit :eek: . I think I read about it in Soundings :rolleyes: .
Lots of Luck sound great you must be getting pretty excited its getting close!
 
Don't forget to have zincs on your underwater running gear when you get into salt water.
 
You have to be careful in the intercoastal. Even years back we hit bottom right in that cut that runs through the firing range (is it Cherry Point?). Anyway, we were in the middle of this narrow cut and got quite a surprise. Local knowledge is key. Ask questions at every spot along the way and radio to vessels that you pass from time to time.
 
Drop a line when you get to NYC. we are on the NJ side near the Lincoln Tunnel. Lincoln Harbor Yacht Club. 407-466-7588


Noel
 
We ran a 48' Ocean up the ditch from St Augustine to Norfolk at the beginning of May. I really don't think it was as bad as everyone says. There IS the occaissional "bumping" bottom, but it is soft and mucky. If you pay REAL close attention to PAPER charts (up to date) and your plotter, you should be ok. The only ones that were having more than a little trouble were relying totally on their electronics. Sometimes the paper charts and the plotter did not agree, at that point, you pay closer attention and usually avoid a problem

Like anything else that we do on the boats, some seem to have more problems than others.

The many bridges bugged us more than the depth of the channel. I think the marking system was much better than I last heard. If you pay close attention you won't get lost. If not, well,,,can you say DELIVERANCE?

:eek:
 
I've done the ditch 4 times in 10 years. The first time I went up the Chesapeake and Delaware. Each time after that I left NY Harbor and came back in at Hampton Roads. A very long stretch but when the weather permits it cuts a lot of distance and time off the trip. I do miss the run on the Chesapeake which has some great water and sights (lots of crab pots too) but I tended to look at the canal and Delaware Bay as a bit "plain" as far as boating experiences go.

My apologies to folks that live on the Delaware Bay

Did I mention the crab pots.

If you are not SCUBA certified, than the potential for untangling a crab pot line is an excellent rationalization to get certified and spend 1000's of dollars on SCUBA equipment.
 
I totally agree with the comment about having a dock available BEFORE you arrive. We live in South Florida all year around and sometimes dockage can be a problem. You are arriving at the beginning of our season and the mega yachts start arriving along with their escorts. Salt water is tricky (I am a former Laker Eric man myself) but again the comment of wash,wash,wash is the trick. If you stay in our area more than 45 days have a diver scrape the bottom every 30 days (they are everywhere..just ask any boater). With regards to the intracoastal, the further south you get the more reliable the waterway is. The waterway is very well maintained in Florida. Watch the manatee warning signs in Florida (you will get stopped if pushing to hard) Good luck.
Rian
 
If you don't have a dock lined up, you may end up paying transient prices. My experience has been that finding dockage in Miami is extremely difficult, unless you just don't care what the cost is. Most marinas that have availablity are now in the neighborhood of $25 per foot per month on an annual basis or more, higher if you want to have the flexibility of not committing to an entire year. There are some cheaper, but getting your foot in the door at those is darn near impossible. MarioG got me into my slip here at Rickenbacker because he knew the dockmaster (who, by the way is a great guy - the level of service I and my boat get here is unmatched). There are only two slips open here that I can see. Everywhere else I visited when looking for a slip had nothing available. Pascal's marina (very nice marina!) doesn't even put anyone on the waiting list anymore because it's going to take years to get through the one they've got. If I can be of any help to you in any way when you get here, or even before you arrive, just let me know.

Ang
 
Angela said:
If you don't have a dock lined up, you may end up paying transient prices. My experience has been that finding dockage in Miami is extremely difficult, unless you just don't care what the cost is. Most marinas that have availablity are now in the neighborhood of $25 per foot per month on an annual basis or more, higher if you want to have the flexibility of not committing to an entire year. There are some cheaper, but getting your foot in the door at those is darn near impossible. MarioG got me into my slip here at Rickenbacker because he knew the dockmaster (who, by the way is a great guy - the level of service I and my boat get here is unmatched). There are only two slips open here that I can see. Everywhere else I visited when looking for a slip had nothing available. Pascal's marina (very nice marina!) doesn't even put anyone on the waiting list anymore because it's going to take years to get through the one they've got. If I can be of any help to you in any way when you get here, or even before you arrive, just let me know.

Ang
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Thanks Ang and everyone for that matter. My son, who is my partner on this boat lives across the street from Dinner Key Marina, (Pascal's place). He has arranged for a slip which I guess starts as a seasonal slip then later becomes a permanent slip. He is a Miami resident so when we can switch to the permanent status, it gets much cheaper. Yes it is expensive, but everything in Florida is at least double what we pay in Michigan. Houses are 4 times the price at least. The good news is that Florida has a booming economy and Michigan has a serious problem. Make that severel serious problems.
 
labrador said:
Once you get out of the Hudson DO NOT PLAN ON GOING INSIDE UNTIL YOU GET TO CAPE MAY unless it's just for fuel. A good stop is Atlantic Highlands inside of Sandy Hook where you will find the cheapest gas (if I remember you are gas) in the area. I keep my boat on the Navesink river in Red Bank and am moving to New Bern N.C. in 2 weeks. Will be taking the boat down the end of Sept. If you're going to be exiting the Hudson around that time we could go down together thru the Chesapeake and into the ditch. I'm also a sailor and race on a J44 who was doing the around Long Island race which started yesterday( however due to business I had to stay home) And I heard they dropped their rudder and are being towed in as we speak. Oh well good thing I didn't go. Let me know when youn plan on being around Sandy Hook outside N.Y. harbor and maybe we can hook up. Skip office 732 222 4600.
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I thought you could go inside about 35 miles south of New York. Some inlet that stars with an M and is a long indian type name. I was told that you could go from there to Cape May inside. I am retired and although I have spent many hours out of sight of land, I would like to see the sights as I go. I would like to stay inside as much as practical. I hate bumping the mud and I would go outside in a heartbeat to avoid that problem. Iwas told that parts of the ICW in Georgia are bad, but others here seem to refute that.
 
SKYCHENEY said:
Maynard,
I have done this trip in reverse, but it was about 25 years ago. If you have time, it will be a really enjoyable trip. The Erie canal is beautiful and the locks are easy to navigate. Be careful of your speed, though. They will time you between locks and make you wait if you go too fast.

Places to spend a few days: Annapolis, Charleston, Hilton Head are the big ones that come to mind.

As far as salt water: Wash, wash, wash. Get in the habit of washing that salt off as often as possible.
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Thanks Sky...all good ideas
 
nyrussell said:
Drop a line when you get to NYC. we are on the NJ side near the Lincoln Tunnel. Lincoln Harbor Yacht Club. 407-466-7588


Noel
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Thanks Noel...I will call you. aybe we can get together.
 
Wow, if you got into Dinner Key as a new customer, you did good then, or knew somebody somewhere up the food chain there. :) All I could get there was an offer for "daily" dockage which was outrageous by the time you multiply that times 30 days and then again times 12 months.

No kidding about Miami's economy! It's unbelievable how much money there is here, but unfortunately, it is also reflected in the prices of everything here. I was rather stunned at first, but I'm slowly getting used to it. I do miss Michigan....but only during college football season! Hope to see you when you get here.

Ang
 
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