Crunch

[rsmith]

Saw these at Witticar yesterday a large Norde like trawler ran up and over a submerged shipping container. Put an 11’ long slice in the hull. I guess engine driven crash pumps are of value

 

[Glory]

They could be used, in a pinch!

 

[bigbill]

aint nothin a hammer and torch wont fix

 

[SEVEN]

Garden trophy

 

[Passages]

Curious - where was the container? Gulf Stream?

Reason I ask is I have been warned against crossing the Stream at night for this reason.

 

[Pascal]

We often cross at night but I Never run on plane at night. If you hit a container at 10kts you have a chance... at 22kts you ll barely have time to deploy a raft...

Supposedly most containers are just below the surface and hard to spot even in daytime especially with waves and swells

 

[Freeebird]

I'm just glad it was someone else.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

We met a couple this year that lost their sailboat while transiting from Bermuda to the Bahamas when they hit a container. It ripped the keel off and they barely had time to get into the dinghy. Their raft had just been recertified and it was deployed and immediately started to deflate. They had no choice but to get into their inflatable dinghy. Luckily a freighter picked them up after about 12hrs out there and they ended up in Belgium. Quite a story and quite a scare. They were lucky.

 

[Boatsb]

I'm just glad it was someone else.

For once.

 

[Freeebird]

For once.

I'm hoping that's one thing that never shows up on the ole resume.

As many of these things that are lost, why can't they install GPS trackers or at least strobe lights on them that pop up when they go overboard?

Is there any liability whatsoever on the part of the shipper who lost them?

 

[racclarkson@gmail.com]

Garden trophy

Sold props and struts off an old boat that I piled up on a bar in an antique type mall. Someone thought they made good bookends and conversation pieces.

 

[oscarvan]

As many of these things that are lost, why can't they install GPS trackers or at least strobe lights on them that pop up when they go overboard?

Yeah that would be nice.....

My guess cost and a variety of technical challenges are prohibitive. Like, for starters, power supply. What would you get..... two days? three days? Then what.... some Navy/CG boat gets to play with the 50 CAL? Environmentalists are gonna LOVE that. And, mid ocean? No one going thousands of miles chasing these things. Thousands of them? No way to tell which ones end up in busy waters.

How about improving the way they are tied down with MASSIVE fines for losing them?

 

[Pascal]

As the cost of electronics plummet there could be options including using AIS technology. AIS is now being used on some NavAids so its uses extends beyond boats and ships

 

[oscarvan]

As the cost of electronics plummet there could be options including using AIS technology. AIS is now being used on some NavAids so its uses extends beyond boats and ships

This is true, however the navaids have solar panels on them to maintain a power supply. Not quite feasible on a submerged box. And, AIS operates on VHF, transmitting on which is seriously power hungry, as is ANY transmitting of useable strength. Unless there is a serious power supply not more than a few days. It is also line of sight which would be OK for immediate collision avoidance but not for search and recover/destroy. Maybe a "ping" every 24 hours to a satellite or something.... think EPIRB.

 

[Photolomy]

There are millions of shipping containers (on ships). And hitting one is pretty rare. I doubt they will equip them with nav aids. Also, I would rather use the dinghy than the raft, if I had time. My dinghy has enough range to make it to shore.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

There are millions of shipping containers (on ships). And hitting one is pretty rare. I doubt they will equip them with nav aids. Also, I would rather use the dinghy than the raft, if I had time. My dinghy has enough range to make it to shore.

That depends on where you are. The couple I wrote about was 600 miles off of the east coast.

 

[Pascal]

I happens a lot more than people think. Take offshore racing (transatlantics, round the world etc...) for example, every race see at least one or two retirements due to hitting large and hard submerged objects.