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Brunswick, bad news

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This year is shaping up to be the softest for boat sales since 1965, Brunswick Corp. Chairman and CEO Dusty McCoy told a group of investors and others Friday.

That assessment came not long after the Lake Forest, Ill.-based company announced it is lowering boat production in the second half of 2007.

Brunswick has about 1,950 employees at its key Boat Group operation and three Sea Ray boat production plants in the Knoxville area. The company does not have any plans for layoffs or shift reductions in Tennessee, company spokesman Dan Kubera said.

“There are a lot of options before we send anyone out the door,” Kubera said.

While U.S. sales in some cases are down 13 percent, Brunswick’s international sales are up 17 percent over the second quarter of 2006, Kubera said.

In fact, the international market now represents 38 percent of the company’s sales, as opposed to 32 percent last year.

The Brunswick announcement comes a week after East Tennessee-based MasterCraft Boat Co. said for the sixth straight year it had record gains in revenue and boats sold.

MasterCraft attributed the gains for the fiscal year ended June 30 in part to a strong showing at boat shows and “aggressive” introductions of new models.

On Friday, Brunswick said it is lowering production because of “continued weakness in retail markets in the United States.”

In some cases, “preliminary industry data indicates that retail sales are down by as much as 13 percent in our key category of sterndrive and inboard-powered fiberglass boats in the second quarter,” McCoy said.

Brunswick also sharply lowered its earnings estimates for 2007, from a range of $1.65 to $2 down to a range of $1.20 to $1.35. Its second-quarter financial report will be issued Thursday, when the company expects diluted earnings per share from continuing operations to be 64 to 65 cents.

McCoy has noted before that high interest rates, a slumping housing market and fuel prices have decreased boat sales.

The Boat Group is Brunswick Corp.’s largest division, with $2.8 billion of the company’s total $5.7 billion in 2006 net sales. Brunswick also sells marine engines, fitness equipment, and bowling, billiards and other recreational equipment.

The revisions in the Boat Group come in the middle of a choppy 2007.

“Through the first half of the year, wholesale shipments have been significantly below levels in the same period a year ago, as well as below 2007 retail sales,” McCoy said. “Despite our actions, however, with the anemic retail demand for sterndrive and inboard fiberglass boats, we have not made meaningful progress in reducing our pipeline inventories for these products.

“We also see no reason to believe that retail trends will reverse in the second half of the year, which is the slowest period for boat sales. As we go into the 2008 model year, which began July 1, commitments received from our dealers support our view of the retail environment. To ensure the continued health of the company and that of our distribution network, we are reducing further production levels for both boats and engines.”

Kubera said the company intends “to bring pipelines back in order,” referring to matching supply with demand.

“We are going to do our darndest to minimize the effect. This is not about cutting jobs. We don’t want to send experience out the door. We are about quality,” Kubera said.
 
Sorry to hear the news. The used boat market seems to be on a steady decline including nice looking hatteras yachts. When will it end?
 
I am not sure it can go much lower. We have our 60C listed at $225K. We do not have to sell and are really priced below anything close so time will tell. If it does not sell at that price the market is in far worse condition than I thought......
 
Like they say it will probably get worse for it gets better. Back in 1989 Wellcraft had 2,500 employees Luxurey tax and a few years later 500 employees.

The used boat market and heavy boats larger boats will take a hit. Let me tell you this there are some really rich guys that will buy new boats and have to get rid of what they have, most dealerships will not take trades especially now.

So daddy warbucks will just tell the salesman get it sold. You will see and hear of boats selling at less than 50% of their asking price. It will hurt. What will hurt worse is "IF" diesel keeps going up.

I came across a fuel slip from 3.5 years ago 1.08, now same stop its 2.59. They just plain sucks. The press is saying it could double again in short order. I hate the press LOL.

Hatteras has done well for years because of their brand loyalty. Some of which came as a result of guys like us being able to own and run their used boats. If we go away their sales plummet. You gotta get rid of the old ones before you can sell the new ones.

By the way I saw the total price of diesel and how it totals up. Lets just say taxes have gone up on the fuel as fast and as much or more than the fuel itself. Maybe we could get the state of Florida to remove 75 cents a gallon of taxes. Let me see what would be in that tax. Boat ramp. Don't need that. Someone patrolling NWZ don't need that. Someone patrolling so ya don't dump waste overboard don't need that. USCG that must be a federal Item. So all in favor of the State of Florida removing 75 cents a gallon from the price of a gallon of dieslel fuel say "I".

Time to drill for oil off the coast of Florida all in favor say "I".



garyd
 
Where do you get $.75/gal in tax? You pay about $.50 in state and federal tax however we are using off road fuel so it is not subject to as much tax. Also, if you want to live next to oil rigs, Move!
 
I shorted BC (Brunswick) stock a few days before they made this announcement.

Needless to say, I'm quite happy.....
 
Tod now we know why the fuel prices are just going to keep going up. Guys like you just don't get it. Sad the liberal bent is just crushing this country.

Karl, ya mean like when Irwin sold Hattteras to Brunswick LOL. Good job!
 
mastercraft sales are up because of the new XTREME sports and yuppie kids bugging daddy to buy a 50k boat so they can ride the wakeboard and just bunny hop across the wakes lol.

I used to ski semi-competitively in college before I started flying....the old boats put out just as nice a wake as the new ones :)

Real estate is down, boats are down, gov spending is up, wasting your money overseas is up....hmmm
 
"While U.S. sales in some cases are down 13 percent, Brunswick’s international sales are up 17 percent over the second quarter of 2006, Kubera said."

"In fact, the international market now represents 38 percent of the company’s sales, as opposed to 32 percent last year."

It only takes a few 70'-100'ers to represent dollars way beyond the 24'-45' stuff. To foreign markets, no surprise. A small number of wealty South Americans, Europeans and middle eastern folks are responsible for the majority of mega yachts on order at this time. Also, a good many of Hatteras' best are going to South American dealers (and some to Italy!).

All things considered (fuel, taxes, labor, etc., etc.) the inflation of certain things since 2003 has been nothing short of stunning. You can't blame the buying public for holding back a little (and you can't blame up and coming yuppies from straining the budget to get that new Master Craft either).

I would guess that the later will at least attract more chicks.

Wonder if 25 years from now this Forum will be conducted in some latino language?
 
I think international sales are up because foreign currencies are quite strong versus the dollar- sterling is better than two dollars each, euros are $1.38 each.Wish I'd kept all that money I changed back when I got home last summer...

I thought new boats were selling well. I was wrong. It makes more sense that the whole boating sales market is flat, not just the used boat segment, but I still know brokers who are selling boats- good ones at a fair price- and doing well. But a fair price doesn't mean what it did even a year or two ago...
 
By the way I saw the total price of diesel and how it totals up. Lets just say taxes have gone up on the fuel as fast and as much or more than the fuel itself. Maybe we could get the state of Florida to remove 75 cents a gallon of taxes. Let me see what would be in that tax. Boat ramp. Don't need that. Someone patrolling NWZ don't need that. Someone patrolling so ya don't dump waste overboard don't need that. USCG that must be a federal Item. So all in favor of the State of Florida removing 75 cents a gallon from the price of a gallon of dieslel fuel say "I".

Time to drill for oil off the coast of Florida all in favor say "I".



garyd

per gaspricewatch.com

"The statewide excise tax is 14.5 cents per gallon for gasoline and 27.2 cpg for diesel. The 14.5 cents represents 10.5 cpg sales tax plus 4 cpg excise tax. Gasoline tax rate increased .2 cpg on 1/1/05. Tax rate changes annually based on CPI. Does not include 2.2-cpg tax/fee for environmental inspection purposes (5 cents per barrel tax for the Water Quality Assurance Trust Fund, 80 cents per barrel for the Inland Protection Trust Fund, 2 cents per barrel for the Coastal Protection Trust Fund and 1/8 cents per gallon for weights and measures inspection fee). Gasoline rate also does not include additional minimum 9.9 to 17.8 cent per gallon local option tax portion with the weighted average of 14.6 cents per gallon. Therefore, depending on where you live in Florida, your overall gasoline tax can vary from an average of 52.9 cents per gallon to 45 cents per gallon."


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