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Boat fire

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Maybe he forgot to pay the yard bill for the fire supression system or he was just trying to get out of paying what he owes...ppat
 
Gee Pat, such negativity..not your style ???
 
It's not negativity.....I am just wondering out loud. Did this guy run out without paying for service that he received or was he just trying to cut corners as most cheapo's will do? Sorry if it came out negative....ppat
 
I wonder if insurance will pay for a terminal fire on a boat named "Final Act". :confused:
 
If the heat doesn't kill you, that toxic smoke will. Moral of the story is to get out and get out quickly.
 
That is one aspect of boating I hope I never experience. It's always sickening to see one burn or sink.
 
We had a boat at our marina catch fire a few years back about 2am...the couple onboard had to run out thru the saloon as it had no escape hatch in the stateroom... Both had minor burns and she twisted an ankle but that was all....
We managed to get the fire out before it got too bad (electrical fire started at the power panal (that he had been working on that day)....
 
I know that boat and the owner. It was one of my listings that was sold by another broker in April 2010. That buyer spent lots of money on the boat after purchasing it, my guess is much more than the insurance value. I also have records of the fire supression system being re-certified just prior to the sale. That buyer is a licensed captain, which makes me think that he took care of maintenance better than the average boat owner. The last time I saw him he said he loved the boat and was planning more upgrades, certainly not a case of getting out of what he owes, there was no financing on the sale.
It is always unfortunate to see a boat damaged, I am glad no one was hurt.
 
"That buyer is a licensed captain, which makes me think that he took care of maintenance better than the average boat owner."

A licensed Captain ran a friend's 58LRC aground while the owner was telling him "the chart shows this water's too shallow." Cpt said, "Don't worry, it's high tide" CRUNCH!

So I'm not convinced a licensed captain is necessarily any better at boating/maintaining boats than a licensed driver is at driving/maintaining a car. Heck, you can get the license on line... ;)
 
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"That buyer is a licensed captain, which makes me think that he took care of maintenance better than the average boat owner."

A licensed Captain ran a friend's 58LRC aground while the owner was telling him "the chart shows this water's too shallow." Cpt said, "Don't worry, it's high tide" CRUNCH!

So I'm not convinced a licensed captain is necessarily any better at boating/maintaining boats than a licensed driver is at driving/maintaining a car. Heck, you can get the license on line... ;)

I'll have to agree with you, Mike. Our friends had essentially the same experience with their 60MY. The captain ran her hard aground when the owner told him not to go there. Needless to say, he fired the captain and ran the boat back to Michigan from FL with his own crew. And he's had no such problems since.
 
What ever the cause, as a life long boatman,commercial,pleasure and boat owner I believe a fire at sea is absolutely the most dangerous situation imaginable.Thank god they were safely rescued,now the insurance company can sort the simple things out.
 
Most of the time on my boat if the alarm system goes off it is a false alarm. I have to come down from the flying bridge to read whatever light is lit on the lower console to find the problem.

A couple years ago a USCG cutter came up to Lunenberg N.S. for a courtesy call on the Fisheries Exposition. We were enjoying a tour of her when her fire alarm sounded. It was pretty impressive. We were ordered off the ship, but by the time we got off the entire crew was mustered at emergemcy stations, in fire suits, respirators and hoses rigged. This was all before the boat was checked. It turned out to be a false alarm, and after a few minutes we resumed our tour. It made a big impression on me, because I realized I had become lackadaisical in my own responses to these alarms. I resolved to treat an alarm as the USCG did--RUN to check it. Fire is so terrible on our wood and fiberglass boats. Even a brief delay could mean the loss of the vessel.
 
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As one that has experienced this unpleasantry, 88 miles offshore of Panama City, FL, enroute to Mobile, Al, I will tell you it a key reason I always advise boaters to NOT operated single-handed. Fighting a fire in the genny room, checking for adjacent damage in other areas, maintaining course, talking with the USCG every 15 minutes on the VHF as they requested, maintaining active watch, etc., simultaneously is pretty tough to do. Of course no one expects to have an on-board fire, neither did I - but xxxt happens. You cannot be over-prepared. I carry 17 hand held extinguishers - only required to carry 2, in addition to two built-in CO2 systems. Ha Ha, carry all of them you can because - 88 miles offshore YOU are the fire department!
 
" 88 miles offshore YOU are the fire department!"

Well said! ;)
 
But you need to have CG approved mounts for all the spares or you will get written up. I have 8 on board. 4 in mounts and 4 in the Fwd locker as an emergency location neat the manual pump. During a discussion with some coasties while having lunch I explained my thinking and he agreed but was corrected by another that they HAVE to write up fire extinguishers that are not properly mounted no matter how many are properly mounted.
 
It seems silly to write up additional fire extinguishers above and beyond the requirement...BUT, their reasoning behind that actually makes some sense. If someone went to your forward compartment where the 4 extra FE's are stored...and they NEEDED them ASAP, if they're not there...now WTF? If they're all mounted, people see them, and know they're always in that spot.

Working for FWC taught me something...see???
 
I agree it makes some sense. I also learned not to offer the information that I have more than the required ones or it can bite me in the but.

Jayson, Hows the rebuild coming?
 
I've learned to never volunteer information to anyone connected to any government agency, and that includes the coasties! Open your mouth at your own expense, it seems to cost you every time!
 
I'll have to agree with you, Mike. Our friends had essentially the same experience with their 60MY. The captain ran her hard aground when the owner told him not to go there. Needless to say, he fired the captain and ran the boat back to Michigan from FL with his own crew. And he's had no such problems since.

When you can get licensed in two weeks from a course where virtually nobody fails you are going to have badly unqualified people running boats. Some are just outright fraudulent.
 

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