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Anyone Know this 48 YF on ebay-Tampa area

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Nice looking YF, would love to do that interior work. :D

This I do know, the sales rep has had offers but no one has followed up.

Make an offer as I expect this boat will not be on the market very long.






Then bring it to me :D
 
I looked at the boat on ebay. A lot of money has been spent on that boat, and someone is going to get a deal if it looks as good in person as the photos. But you must be able to complete the job or it is not a good deal. Like has been said before, upgrades must be to your liking or they are not upgrades. It looks like there is new wiring, but the electrical panel came off something else and I cannot see any shorepower/generator selector switches. They partially enclosed the lower helm, but if you want to fish, you cannot see the cockpit. You should go look at this in person and check to see what parts and fitings have been replaced and what they were replace with. If you buy this just for the hull and engines and can get it for a good price then you should be ok. If you want a project this could be a good one if the engines are in good shape, it did not come with 8v92TA these were put in by the PO. It should be fast (25 knots) with this power installed. If you like the layout and size, your other choice is an original boat, but they all run about $100k-$150K and you will have a slow boat. At this age, even in pristine condition, you are reaching the point where it is time to start redoing everything. I wanted a project so I could build what I wanted and have a zero time boat when I finished. I found the boat I wanted and bought for hull value $45K. In my opinion if you can get this for no more than $50k-$60k and the engines are good, then it would make sense to finish the boat and if you plan to keep it for at least 10 years, you won't really lose a lot so long as the changes you make appeal to the next potential owner. Use quality materials and make the design simple and you will easily find someone else who will appreciate what you have done. For instance the original ER only had 5 hatches, and was difficult to get to everything, now we have 10 hatches, this is an improvement. This model came with two floor plans, a two state room and a three stateroom layout. We opted to change it to a two stateroom layout. The forward stateroom was bunk beds, it is now a queen size bed with two closets. The forward head is larger now also. The guest stateroom was two bunk beds and we gave it up so we could have a very large master head and stateroom with plenty of closets and storage. This layout would make a great full time live aboard for a couple, which is my intention should I be able to retire in the next few years. In the mean time the 48 YF design has so much usable space it will be great in the mean time for cruising with my friends. We will have a convertible couch for additional sleeping space. Two heads means no waiting. I think that if you want three staterooms you need a larger boat. Hatteras only made this boat for 3 years, 1971-1974 so all of them are 30+ years old at this stage. You should PM me if you have any questions. :D
 
I noticed that panel too....

The engine pics don't strike me as "0 hour" engines. They do look like they were recently painted, but there are no hoses on the port engine's raw water pump, along with some other areas. There's some rust and oil staining in various places too. The exhaust manifolds and turbo plumbing have already started burning the paint off, but maybe that happens as soon as you crank them.....

If what's there is "right", it could indeed be a good deal, but it's not obvious that the mechanicals are as good as stated.

Could the "new motors" be a pair of running take-out 8v92's with fresh paint?
 
Those engines are not zero hour unless they were not repainted or otherwise done externally. I would not believe that claim for a second.

With that said, at the right price it would not be a bad buy. The electrical panel looks like a Blue Seas - quality stuff - but I'm guessing here as there are a couple of manufacturers.

It is NOT the original, that much is for sure, and there are no apparent selectors - and those aren't cheap.

Lots of work yet to do, but if the mechanicals are good it might be a good buy at the right price.
 
Why would anyone strip that boat like that? Why is it setting in the water in that condition. It's obvious it does not run, its has major major work to do. That's a multi year project. Ya a lot of money has been spent, but a lot more is going to be spent before that boat will be even usable. It will never be worth the money you put into it. I would not even consider it and I like projects. My bet this boat was a sinker. For it to have that much rework. I agree with Karl those don't look like new motors. Not for the common folk or the week in funds. :eek:



BILL
 
The seller claims the owner who died also owned a yard, and the boat is running now. Claims all parts are there, etc. as well. 2 in paint job, not 12 ft as the 44 Hatteras was on Yachtworld. I think he said it is in the/a Clearwater Yacht Club? Anyone near there?
 
Like Trojan said, I wonder why all that had to be done....it looks like the PO decided to gut everything and refit it. There's a lot left to finish, though, and a good chance that there's at least some that will have to be done over. You would have to buy it very cheaply indeed in order to make a reasonable go of it, unless a 48YF had been your dream boat for decades and you just had to have one. I suspect the bank that now has it does not have a realistic idea of what it is really worth. They may have it a while.
 
Yeah... someone needs to get the HIN and pull a CLUE on it :D
 
That marina is a condo type marina and known for old live-aboards.
It would be hard to get info from neighbors. My father bought a Trojan
at that marina that had been seized by customs for 4 years after
the owner retrieved his family from Cuba in the early 80's. Things have
not changed much down there.
I live in the area and have not seen her out and about.
Mike
 
No one would buy my boat right now in its current condition, since it was completely gutted and is not complete yet. Something about 30+ year old systems and several previous owners that it made sense to restart the clock with everything new. I will have about 1/4 the cost of anything new spent making this one a much improved boat. I could buy a good condition boat for about what I have spent. But it would still be another 20+ year old boat with all the warts. Hat only made this model from 71-74, it has true fishability, unlike the models that came after. So if you want one that offers the performance, and layout with current technology, you can't buy it, you have to build it. The boat in question at least has good iron in it, meaning that there is sufficient HP in the 8v92ta to get the boat up to modern speeds. I would remove most of what has been done to the boat. But that is me. If you think spending $150k-$200k too much then this boat is not for you. If you can afford it then you can have a very nice boat that will give many years of good service. This can be a very good opportunity to make a custom boat for very little money when put in proper perspective. It just depends on what you want. Center console boats cost upwards of $300K nowadays, so a custom 48 YF for less than that is a real bargain! Unless of course $250K is too rich for your blood.
 
There is obviously some confusion in the sales data on this boat. The data clearly states that the boat has "new" DD 8-71Ns. As has been observed above, that does not appear to be the case--as the engines do not appear to be new and Chris states they're 92s. There is probably a simple reason for the inaccuracies and wrong information.

For whatever its worth, having represented a bunch of banks in my 26 years of practicing law, I can say that it is HIGHLY unlikely that the bank's loan officer or recovery person in charge of this liquidation knows anything much about what they've got here. And it is not unusual for banks, particularly, to have missplaced notions about what their collateral is worth, etc. They may have had a surveyor on the boat or then again, they may not have. Whether they did or didn't most likely will depend on what the outstanding balance is on the PO's note and what the provisions of the note provide about the bank recovering its liquidation expenses, etc., and whether the PO or his estate is good for the money. In other words, no bank generally wants to put good money after bad unless there is a really good chance of getting it back.

The sales information indicates that the vessel is documented, so there may or may not be UCC records in Tallahassee which contain what the bank is owed on this. If the lien holder is a National Bank, the OCC requires the bank to inspect its collateral at least every 3 years and document its value in their file, but this can be sketchy at best at times. Most likely, the bank is simply repeating in a parrot like manner what it has in its file or what it has been told by someone who may or may not know what he or she is talking about. If the bank officer doesn't know anything about boats, how are they to know.

If anyone is interested in the boat, the best way to approach this, I believe, is to find out the name of the bank and then the name of the recovery or loan officer in charge of its liquidation and go talk to them. Find out what they've got to get out of the boat, and then what they're take to get out of the "boat." Banks do not want to be in the brokerage business, whether its boats or anything else. Such would be the best way to effect a quick purchase at a price the bank is willing to take under the circumstances. The bank, however, has two major hurdles: (1) the law requires that the sale of collateral be reasonable under all the circumstances (which generally but not always means a public sale-not private) and (2) the law requires that the bank obtain the collateral's fair market value, whatever that might be at the time.

Knowledge is a powerful thing. You guys have lots of it! Educating an otherwise unknowledgeable bank officer may take a little time, but may yield a bargain purchase. The Bank's incorrect statements about the boat, its condition and its engines are made by the bank at its peril. If the statements are false or fraudulent, and they know or should know it, the "as is" sale will not protect them from misstating the condition, etc., of the boat. In my opinion, no one who knows much about boats is going to buy this thing without a lot more information! But then again, a fool is soon separated from his money.

Okay, I'll stop now, as that last statement hits a little to close to home.
 

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