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Adding Amtico

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Mike- what about a regular Dremel tool? I've used the heck out of mine, on the galley project, for small cuts that need precision. I have one here on the boat if you would like to borrow. I found that the Fein clone can be "jumpy" where the Dremel I find gave a little more precision.

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 MY
 
Hmm…

Good idea, Cheryl. I have a Dremel tool here but it didn't occur to me to try it. The problem involved with cutting the Amtico "boards" in place is in getting a perfect 90 degree cut so the new board will butt perfectly to the old board. What I have been doing is using a blade from a block plane as a chisel, placing it with a square and then tapping, er, I mean POUNDING, the blade through the Amtico. It leaves a nice, clean cut but it's easy to slightly mis-align the blade so the cut isn't square; then I get to do it over about a 1/4" further into the old board! Sometimes I've had to recut the board 3 times to get it right. I'm on a break as I type this from doing exactly that (started work at 5AM). :)

Another problem with the Fein that MIGHT occur with the dremel is that the heat generated by the blade melts the edge of the amtico and leaves a rough edge that isn't suitable for butting. But the dremel tool, with it's much smaller cutting blade may not do that.

I'll give it a try after I get back from a little morning exercise on the cross-island trail…if my knees can still function from all this kneeling/Amtico cutting.

Thanks.

Oh…FWIW - sometime back someone claimed that Amtico was real wood with a coating of some sort of plastic material. It is not. It is completely "plastic" of some sort. The wood grain will stretch as you heat the amtico with the heat gun/pull it up. Hot Amtico feels like rubber. If you stretch it and form/hold it into a different shape, when it cools it will harden into that shape. There is no wood involved.
 
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I have this for the Galley, heads and companionway on the long term projects list. I enjoy tracking your progress and have already learned much from your previous post and expeience. please post some progress pics of your efforts.
 
Saw it today. It's going to look great. We might have to put Mike on an Advil drip, though.
 
LOL :)

I'm on a "rum drip" at the moment and my knees don't hurt at all! Well, it's not a drip, I have to actually make the drink but it works really well and is more fun than Advil. The Advil will be for bedtime. :)

I've laid the first level of underlayment ( supplied by Dr Jim) using a nail gun (supplied by Cheryl).

I'll post some pics in the next day or so...
 
MikeP said:
LOL :)

I'm on a "rum drip" at the moment and my knees don't hurt at all! Well, it's not a drip, I have to actually make the drink but it works really well and is more fun than Advil. The Advil will be for bedtime. :)

I've laid the first level of underlayment ( supplied by Dr Jim) using a nail gun (supplied by Cheryl).

I'll post some pics in the next day or so...
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Dark rum is best.
 
Mount Gay is usually the preferred brand, I find. He's making progress, I saw it today.
 
1. Thanks to Dr Jim for suggesting that my idea to nail the underlayment panels down with a hammer and ring-nails was an instant recipe for a repetitive stress injury (I had already purchased the ring nails). He prescribed a nail gun, brought me an extra sheet of plywood and a skill saw.

Later, I was on the way to the lumber yard to buy a nail gun when I ran into Cheryl on the dock and...

2. Thanks to Cheryl for loaning me TWO air guns and a compressor!

I have to buy another half-sheet of plywood but the underlayment will all be down tomorrow. Then some leveling compound to apply/sand in some areas and then I'll be ready to actually start laying the Amtico…maybe Saturday.

Now if I just had a belt sander it would really speed up leveling… ;)
 
This thread is worthless without pictures. :)
 
MikeP said:
1. Thanks to Dr Jim for suggesting that my idea to nail the underlayment panels down with a hammer and ring-nails was an instant recipe for a repetitive stress injury (I had already purchased the ring nails). He prescribed a nail gun, brought me an extra sheet of plywood and a skill saw.

Later, I was on the way to the lumber yard to buy a nail gun when I ran into Cheryl on the dock and...

2. Thanks to Cheryl for loaning me TWO air guns and a compressor!

I have to buy another half-sheet of plywood but the underlayment will all be down tomorrow. Then some leveling compound to apply/sand in some areas and then I'll be ready to actually start laying the Amtico…maybe Saturday.

Now if I just had a belt sander it would really speed up leveling… ;)
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Borrowing tools from a girl. Turn in your card Mike.
 
Scott, you don't know this girl.

Mike's card is safe, trust me on this one.
 
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jim rosenthal said:
Scott, you don't know this girl.

Mike's card is safe, trust me on this one.
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Real men buy tools. She may be as manly as some but I wouldn't insult her. I don't know her but hear she has done a lot of work on her boat.

This is a man cave
 

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Sky - re pics…yes, I know I owe pics. I actually DO take them but I get involved in the work and consistently fail to upload/post them. Seems like such a PITA though I'm sure if I was current on technology it would be much easier. There's probably a way to take/post them instantly. My current camera, a Nikon D5300, has built-in WiFi capability that can probably do just that. Maybe I should actually read the instructions! :) I promise I will post some pics in the next day or two.

Re my man card…

I apologize for my actions in this matter. Though I do not regret them, I DO accept the fact that some of my fellow Hatt-mates are concerned with what appears to be questionable judgement on my part. However I believe that once the resulting media storm has subsided, the results will stand for themselves and the controversy will be viewed, in the historical perspective, as a proper, just, and effective use of available resources. Further, I believe that, as we grow and learn, it will someday become common for men to borrow tools from persons of the other gender. I realize this will not happen overnight but I envision a world where cross-gender tool borrowing will be a common, almost daily occurrence. It is a world that I eagerly anticipate and I hope you will join me as enthusiastic supporters of that vision!



OK…I probably could have posted some pics in the time it took me to come up with that… :)
 
Good grief y'all - those of you who know Mike know his 'man card' is in no danger of being revoked any time soon. He has more tools aboard Brigadoon that most people have in their home garages. He's lent me tools before and it was nice, this time, to be able to return the favor.

For real, how many times do you actually use a nail gun on a boat anyway? Makes no sense to buy one for a single usage when I've got 2 of them (purchased when I owned a land-home) that have been sitting in the storage unit for 7 years.

For all the folks who help me out with tools, expertise, lifting heavy objects, and moral support, it's nice on the rare occasion when I can actually give back. What I think many of us love about boating is the "community" aspect.

As for posting pics, I find the easiest way is to take them with the phone, email them to myself, then post from there. It did take awhile to get the 'hang of it'.

Cheryl
Cinderella
1971 53 My
 
Why Nails at all :confused:

I didn't even use nails on my Kitchen sub floor PL glue and screws. If you want it removable then just screws. All floors move specially on a boat!
 
"Why Nails at all

I didn't even use nails on my Kitchen sub floor PL glue and screws. If you want it removable then just screws. All floors move specially on a boat!"

I'm no flooring expert but I would think gluing the underlayment to the subfloor could create problems because, as you noted, some movement is going to happen. If you glue the underlayment down, the subfloor can't flex with the stringers to which it is attached. That seems like it could cause some structural issues when the boat flexes…but that's just speculation on my part.

As far as screws vs nails - since I'm gluing down the Amtico flooring to the underlayment, screws holding the underlayment to the subfloor don't provide any benefit since to get to the screws/remove the underlayment you would have to remove the Amtico first and, believe me, that's not something that you want to do! Nails/gun is a lot faster (and cheaper…if you don't have to buy a nail gun)! I agree that bronze or SS screws WOULD be much more nautically correct! :)

As Cheryl said, other than what I'm doing at the moment, I can't think of a single other use for a nail gun on our boat…so buying one for a one-time use was not attractive to me though I was prepared to do it.
 
Strike Two!!

MikeP said:
Maybe I should actually read the instructions! :)
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Reading instructions is a violation of man rules. You should know better. ;)
 
Lost my head there for a minute - sorry! ;)
 
Before Mike's man card was revoked, he did a great job tuning the engine in my Cobra. It goes like a rocket. Former man Mike also just finished changing the belts and some other odds and ends on a Ferrari 328 that lives at the marina where he keeps his boat. (that's cam belts, not seat belts) Ex-man Mike used to build drag race motors (he likes MoPars, particularly Wedges and Hemis) at RHS in Memphis.

It's too bad, he used to be such a cool guy. Cross-gender tool lending, indeed.
 
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