53 my salvage

[SEVEN]

I saw that the first time and admired the stair case.

 

[kaptain63]

Well she under contract some wanted her.

 

[Scarlett]

Do you think it went for the four thousand some dollars it said on Yachtworld?

 

[Fish Tales]

I hope she is put back to pristine condition, and not scrapped or parted out.

Just my 2 cents

Have a great week all,
Tim

 

[oscarvan]

Be a perfect hull to start with for a repower.

 

[rtrafford]

The project is too much fun to part out. Of course the cost is also double what anyone dares to budget.

 

[kaptain63]

I was ready to go for it but got call out of town. So now I need to find some thing else.

 

[Boatsb]

I think you may have dodged a bullet there.

The boat will probably need 2 or 3 times the work you think.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Oh, yes. The gift that keeps on taking, not giving.

 

[Pascal]

You have to start from scratch. Rip everything that got wet including wiring. 100k to repower, 20k AC, 15k genset, 15k electrical. By the time it's all done you ll have a close to new 53 for 200k of you can do most of the work yourself. If you have to pay a yard to do the work it s not worth it.

 

[Glory]

To add to Pascal's very valid point I'd bet you would have a 100 hours of running down little inexpensive, if I dare use that word, items that are not even on the A list of issues.

I started a restoration on a "running" boat, and the words damm, oh $#!+, not again, what the £¥<$, why the hell is that and other not pretty lines, all while the money was flying from my wallet. I have enjoyed the results, although the restoration goes on, and I truly enjoy the time I spend onboard both with tools and cocktail in hand.

Start with a running boat, in the end it would be alot less expensive.

 

[Boatsb]

If your gutting a vessel and modernizing the interior it's expensive and a lot of work. By design these older boats were not made for the lifestyle or components of today's new boats. There's only so much you can do with the old girls. They will never be like a modern boat.

In the competetive fishing world engines and running gear is far different from 40 years ago. Keeping an older hull relevant is tough and expensive. Especially when the 40 kt boats are in the mix.

For motoryachts the style and comforts have changed significantly. You just can't build a new interior and expect it to be like a new.boat when the structure and layout was never intended to be set up that way.

 

[rtrafford]

If your gutting a vessel and modernizing the interior it's expensive and a lot of work. By design these older boats were not made for the lifestyle or components of today's new boats. There's only so much you can do with the old girls. They will never be like a modern boat.

In the competetive fishing world engines and running gear is far different from 40 years ago. Keeping an older hull relevant is tough and expensive. Especially when the 40 kt boats are in the mix.

For motoryachts the style and comforts have changed significantly. You just can't build a new interior and expect it to be like a new.boat when the structure and layout was never intended to be set up that way.

I did it, well, I did more. In the end I had an incredible fishing machine that wanted to cruise at 20 knots moreso than 24, and WOT was 27-28. Now you might overcome some of that with pods, eliminating some drag, but that hull still wants to hydroplane and ride up the keel. It wants to up higher more than faster.

So my 3406E setup was perfect at 800 HP. While I enjoyed it, you take a big hit in the market if you can't cruise 30+.

If you aren't doing it to sell, then enjoy the ride, but I probably had it easier in that my shell was stripped bare. I didn't have to guess as to whether something stayed or went. Better to send it away then to try to work within what is left.

If I was to do it again, I'd begin the project with a design engineer for hull modifications. Of course most out there are as absurdly insane as I am...

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Funny to hear about modern interiors and the assumption that they are somehow better. A year or so ago, I had an owner of a new Fleming ask to come on my boat. He had owned a Hatteras in the past and wanted to see it. As he sat on the sofa, he says that he thinks he needs to sell his new Fleming and buy an old Hatteras. The reason: His wife hates the built in furniture. Says its just not as comfortable as the regular furniture they had in their previous Hatteras.

I never really thought about it before, but that built in stuff is usually just wood with a cushion on top. It probably isn't as comfortable as a sofa or chair with built in springs, etc.

 

[Boatsb]

Most older hatts don't have large beds in the cabins. That's a big issue. My 41c has no way to make a proper master by today's standards without redesigning the deck and cabin. I'd love to have a queen or close to that size bed in the master. I'd also like a different galley layout and 2 heads but that's not an easy change.

I don't believe in the built in furniture being better or even useful. In fact I often don't find it comfortable either.

As far as the newer technologies and comforts go there's always good and bad. Just look at some of the newer vessels and see what you like and what you dont.

 

[rsmith]

Most older hatts don't have large beds in the cabins. That's a big issue. My 41c has no way to make a proper master by today's standards without redesigning the deck and cabin. I'd love to have a queen or close to that size bed in the master. I'd also like a different galley layout and 2 heads but that's not an easy change.

I don't believe in the built in furniture being better or even useful. In fact I often don't find it comfortable either.

As far as the newer technologies and comforts go there's always good and bad. Just look at some of the newer vessels and see what you like and what you dont.

my bunks are 6’4” half of these “modern” boats have bunks for midgets

 

[krush]

Most older hatts don't have large beds in the cabins. That's a big issue. My 41c has no way to make a proper master by today's standards without redesigning the deck and cabin. I'd love to have a queen or close to that size bed in the master.

Nothing a chainsaw can't fix! Island queen fwd in a 41c

 

[bobk]

Funny to hear about modern interiors and the assumption that they are somehow better. A year or so ago, I had an owner of a new Fleming ask to come on my boat. He had owned a Hatteras in the past and wanted to see it. As he sat on the sofa, he says that he thinks he needs to sell his new Fleming and buy an old Hatteras. The reason: His wife hates the built in furniture. Says its just not as comfortable as the regular furniture they had in their previous Hatteras.

I never really thought about it before, but that built in stuff is usually just wood with a cushion on top. It probably isn't as comfortable as a sofa or chair with built in springs, etc.

Switching boats to solve a seating problem is a tough way to solve an easy problem. I bought my Hershine 41' trawler new and that first winter I removed all the built-in seating and pilot seat and replaced it with custom sofa etc. I repaneled the walls and even got the two part epoxy primer and two part clear varnish to match. Much less expensive than changing boats and then redecorating.

Bobk

 

[Glory]

my bunks are 6’4” half of these “modern” boats have bunks for midgets

And in many you need a pointed head!

 

[Pascal]

I know you can't really make an old boat into a new one without spending close to what the boat will cost but with careful planning you can get 80% of the way for a fraction of the cost

Most new boats don't have the large breezy aft deck you find on a 53, even the newer 54/56 hatt despite the wider beam Who's been on a late model Marquis, Sea ray, Tiara, mutt etc 50/54 flybridge recently? The space and volume don't even come close to what you find on the older hatts

The down side of the early 53 is the narrow beam. A salvage 56MY or wide beam 53MY would require the same amount of money and result in an even better boat

The sportfish are a different story because now they re all about speed but the MYs can be refitted and modernized, incl the layout.