Hatteras Molds

[capttonyf]

Does anyone know whatever happened to some of the old molds, the 32 in particular? Boats like the 65C, and 53C are timeless and it makes you wonder if they were all destroyed at some point.

Thanks
Tony

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Word is they are all at the bottom of the Atlantic. Sunk for an artificial reef.

 

[capttonyf]

Word is they are all at the bottom of the Atlantic. Sunk for an artificial reef.

Sounds about right. I never understood why companies destroyed the molds if they were still in good shape. Thanks. Tony

 

[rsmith]

When we visited the plant in the 60’s the molds were all wood don’t kn how they sink.

 

[capttonyf]

When we visited the plant in the 60’s the molds were all wood don’t kn how they sink.

I think they’re steel tubing and fiberglass. Not sure why they’d sink them. Like you said though, would they sink?

 

[Captain Ralph]

Proprietary data is included in those molds.
Even on a reef, they could be measured or even re-claimed.

I understood they were smashed up well, the usual demise for molds you don't want to deal with again.
From that they could be reef material.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Proprietary data is included in those molds.
Even on a reef, they could be measured or even re-claimed.

I understood they were smashed up well, the usual demise for molds you don't want to deal with again.
From that they could be reef material.

I would think it would be easier to measure a boat on the hard than to dive down and try to measure molds piled up on the bottom.

 

[jmooney]

I heard that when Ferretti Group bought Bertram they destroyed all blueprints and data . I have all my grey box items, but it would be nice if a database is established before all is gone .

 

[brettportzer]

I wrote in another thread, but I am interested in a newer copy of my boats documents, etc.

No grey box here, although I do have most of the original, somewhat work out blue prints, etc…

Who exactly should I contact?

https://www.samsmarine.com/forums/s...rly-1980-s-56-motoryacht.&p=425497#post425497

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Ok. I found them. Here are the coordinates:

They are in 58 feet of water. Listed as North Carolina reef number AR340, J Paul Tyndall Reef, containing TRAIN CARS & HATTERAS BOAT MOLDS


Hatteras boat molds: 12


07-Nov-96 21-Nov-96


34° 34.367' / 076° 58.500'
34° 34.367' / 076° 58.333'
34° 34.383' / 076° 58.500'
34° 34.450' / 076° 58.500'
34° 34.500' / 076° 58.517'
34° 34.417' / 076° 58.483'
34° 34.433' / 076° 58.517'
34° 34.400' / 076° 58.483'
34° 34.400' / 076° 58.533'
34° 34.383' / 076° 58.517'
34° 34.367' / 076° 58.533'


I just can't believe you guys doubted me


https://chasintailsoutdoors.com/gps-numbers/

https://fishingstatus.com/fishing/details/IndexId/372484

https://files.nc.gov/ncdeq/Marine-F...ation/artificial-reefs/DMF-Reef-Guide-WEB.pdf Page 42-43

 

[Captain Ralph]

On a reef in one piece?

 

[SKYCHENEY]

On a reef in one piece?

No idea. Maybe they're whole. Maybe in pieces. Guess we need to send a diver out


I wonder if they could have floated them out there of if they just shoved them off of a barge.

 

[34Hatt]

Absolutely true.

A little over 10 years ago I contacted Hatteras to try and get a graving drawing for my 34 without any luck.

I protested to Hatteras clerk that it was long out of production, but she told me hull geometry was valuable to competitors and was still classified as a trade secret.

DAN

That is so stupid all you need is a hull flip it over make a mold its been done before.
These day it can be scanned and be a drawing before lunch time.

 

[Captain Ralph]

A little over 10 years ago

These day it can be scanned

Over 10 years ago and These days are two different time frames and have different technology cost.

 

[capttonyf]

That is so stupid all you need is a hull flip it over make a mold its been done before.
These day it can be scanned and be a drawing before lunch time.

I heard its hard to make a mold using a hull as the plug because
you have to account for shrinkage when it cures. Whatever that means.

Tony

 

[Boatsb]

I think you're confusing porcelain and fiberglass

 

[madhatter1]

Shrinkage sucks but we have to deal with the reality.

 

[Scarlett]

I actually was involved in that Ericsson 35 deal. I did some of the original test sails on the first Ericsson 35 produced. It was a very good looking boat for that time. Nothing special in its sailing characteristics.

 

[Scarlett]

Dan, do you remember his name. That boat building community back then was pretty small.

 

[34Hatt]

Over 10 years ago and These days are two different time frames and have different technology cost.

It was available 15 years ago and was about 130K not that much if you want to start scanning hulls.
Todays tech it can be done before morning break.