Refinishing Master Stateroom

[Pettigrewr]

And a few more.
Finally got most of the paint/stain specs out of the pores of the wood with the 60 grit sandpaper.
In some areas the original paint/stain had been applied more heavily and also certain parts of the mahogany had more open grain and the paint/stain was deeper in the grain.
I am undecided whether to restore the mahogany arch to bare wood or just paint it white with the rest of the white walls around the portholes. Any input?

Next step is go back over with 120 grit.
This two week project is turning into a two month project!

 

[whoover]

There is no need to by a special sander to use the net type discs. You can get an adapter that velcroes to your orbital sander and then the discs attach to that. Ive used one and it works fine. Also there is a youtube video of a guy up here in Canada that built a cyclone dust collector from two home depot buckets. I have also built that and used it for sanding fairing compound, it works fantastic and cost about $30.00 to put together.

Since you have more to do its worth looking at.

Walt Hoover

 

[Jammin']

It's going to be stunning. I'm already having sympathetic soreness for all the work.

 

[Pettigrewr]

There is no need to by a special sander to use the net type discs. You can get an adapter that velcroes to your orbital sander and then the discs attach to that. Ive used one and it works fine. Also there is a youtube video of a guy up here in Canada that built a cyclone dust collector from two home depot buckets. I have also built that and used it for sanding fairing compound, it works fantastic and cost about $30.00 to put together.

Since you have more to do its worth looking at.

Walt Hoover

Hi Walt,
I found the backing pad adapters you mentioned that allow the use of the sanding screens with other brands of sanders and will be ordering some.
I just watched the you-tube video from Chris Notap on making the cyclone dust collectors and I'm going to build that thing before starting my next sanding project!
Thank you Walt for the two great tips.

 

[Pettigrewr]

It's going to be stunning. I'm already having sympathetic soreness for all the work.

Thank you,
I do hope it will look a lot better than the original finish.
This was more work than I realized and I'm glad this original paint/stain finish is only in the master and passageways.
A lesson I learned from this project is how important prep work is with dust control and containment which I failed at doing.
On the next sanding project, I will be using lots of plastic sheeting and covering the overhead, deck, and any penetrations where dust can enter/escape, electrical outlets, speaker holes, HVAC duct outlets, etc. When mahogany is sanded, the dust is as fine as talcum powder and the dust cleanup has been horrendous.

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Looks great. I'd sand the "arch" too.

 

[Byresch]

Thanks for the tip, I never heard of this sanding equipment company.
I just checked it out.
Looks like well built professional sanders with proprietary sanding disks that is like a net or screen that lets ALL the dust travel into the vacuum. I wish I had this before starting the current project although the prices are high. The 6' orbital sander alone without the vacuum is close to $500.
The sanding disks are reasonably priced when buying in quantities like a case of 50.
I going to check out ebay and facebook marketplace for a good used one.

Again, thank you for the info.

When I did jobs like that I had two wonderful pieces of equipment that saved my old bones. They were call grandsons and loved helping me do projects like that.

 

[Byresch]

Your project is looking great and all the hardwork will be worth the finished look. I admire your dedication and finishing work!

 

[Pettigrewr]

Looks great. I'd sand the "arch" too.

That's one of those "I want to, but then more work added".
Talking to a friend of mine on the phone, He said "don't cut corners - do the job right!".
When I asked if he would help me with the arch and some moldings, for some reason the call was disconnected and now when I call him, it just goes to voice mail. I guess his phone will be fixed in a few weeks when I'm done, LOL!

Your right, the arch needs to be done to make it all look complete.

 

[Pettigrewr]

Your project is looking great and all the hardwork will be worth the finished look. I admire your dedication and finishing work!

Thank you,
These are projects that once started, unfortunately there is just no turning back.
When done, hopefully I will say it was worth it (if it turns out as expected) and would probably do it again, however, it really is a huge, time consuming project for one person and I'm glad I'm not living aboard right now, dust is everywhere even in the refrigerators!. And also one of those undertakings where as unplanned or undecided tasks come up, it's a "might as well do that too while I'm at it!" kind of projects which adds to completion anxiety. I am happily under budget but I misjudged the amount of mess and underestimated the timeline.
For all those members contemplating an undertaking like this, however much time you estimate it will take, simply multiply it by 4.
I'm taking a week off to recuperate and re-energize then back at it!
Rob

 

[Pettigrewr]

Here is the latest on the master stateroom, not done yet but getting there!

 

[Pettigrewr]

I only cleaned the headliner and did not paint it as previously planned.

The closet bi-fold doors are two-tone white and mahogany because: A. I didn't want the room so very dark with mahogany everywhere and B. They were previously completely painted and it was easier to repaint the louvers and sand the frames then trying to strip the louvers of all those old coats of unknown paints.

Still to do: Another two coats of Arm-R-Seal gloss topcoat for all the mahogany, new carpet to be put down, mattresses and bedding then I'm moving on the the guest stateroom.

 

[43DoubleCabin]

Looks great. How did you clean the head liner?

 

[SEVEN]

Are those stripe lighting above the port holes or just a reflection?

 

[oscarvan]

Are those stripe lighting above the port holes or just a reflection?

To me it looks like a reflection of the rope lighting mounted on the inside of the next piece of trim inboard....

 

[Pettigrewr]

Looks great. How did you clean the head liner?

Spray cleaner from dollar tree store called awsome with bleach. $1 a bottle and has just enough bleach to clean mold and mildew but not enough to dry out vinyl. Does great cleaning all surfaces.

 

[Pettigrewr]

Are those stripe lighting above the port holes or just a reflection?

Lady Kay V is correct, a reflection. Led strip is actually behind support beam and just reflecting off gloss topcoat.

 

[Fanfare]

To update this thread, my 50MY, hull #22, has Philippine ribbon mahogany everywhere except the master cabin. This mahogany was sprayed with a combination stain and sealer which began to bubble off maybe 25 years ago. I was lucky to have a fantastic team to refinish it because this wood was not solid but a veneer. Very careful sanding followed by separate staining and varnishing has resulted in a perfect finish which looks great even today.

My Dad ordered Fanfare from the factory with the master cabin and hallway in a white pickeled oak finish to keep it brighter down below. After this finish yellowed I had it sanded and brush painted with Hatteras white so I don't know what kind of wood is beneath but solid mahogany would seem excessive. The extra sunlight has made it a very cheerful room.

Fanfare was probably completed in December 1965 but delivered on January 7, 1966 so she could be titled as a year newer boat. At that time an owner could pretty much specify any customization they wanted and Hatteras would do it. Thus Fanfare was ordered with the very first Hynautic (then the Fluid Control Company) steering system, which was so much improved over the former Crowell system that three hulls later (inventory?) Hynautic became standard. Years later in a call Hynautic told me Hatteras had become their biggest customer.

 

[Bob Quinn]

That's amazing work! I admire your dedication and perseverance

Any idea how many hours you have into that stateroom?

 

[Pettigrewr]

86 hours sanding & prep including escape hatch.
14 hours applying clear coat.
25 hours restoring portholes.
29 hours refinishing porthole walls
3 hours installing carpet.
13 hours refinishing closet doors.
5 hours installing baseboard LED lighting (bendable aluminum channel)
4 hours restoring berth lights.
2 hours restoring music speakers.

with researching, picking up materials, etc; 200 hours.