Removal of State Room Door Jamb

[JD5652]

I'm installing a new washer and dryer in my 1976 58 LRC. I've got the old Kenmore All-In-One unit out by separating them and dissecting the washer. I'll post up a new thread on that whole process.... BUT... right now I'm trying to find the "least destructive" haul path for the new units... they will be separate and then stacked.

Right now it looks like the best path is to bring them in the forward state room hatch. However, the state room door is too narrow.... however it would be wide enough if I removed the door jamb...

Anyone done this before without demolishing the jamb?

 

[dottieshusband]

The door jam is glued on..and nailed. It won't come off without a fight. If you go that route, cut thru the surrounding veneer with a utility knife to minimize damage. I'm not familiar with your boat, but the Bosch Axxis units fit through my pilothouse door and hallway.

 

[JD5652]

The door jam is glued on..and nailed. It won't come off without a fight. If you go that route, cut thru the surrounding veneer with a utility knife to minimize damage. I'm not familiar with your boat, but the Bosch Axxis units fit through my pilothouse door and hallway.

Thanks for the response.....

I'm going with ASKO and they are very close to same dimensions (H x W x D) as the Bosch Axxis. I can get the unit through the pilot house door... however on the 58 LRC it has to go down a spiral set of stairs from the pilot

house... which it may or may not make the turn. I'm going to mock up a cardboard box and do a dry run and determine if I can get it down the stairs.... if not... I will be tackling the door jamb.

At least I have a marine carpenter that says if I "destroy" the door jamb, he can re-make the jamb for me.​

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[dottieshusband]

Don't know if it's the same size stairway, but I also went down the 1/4 spiral steps to the landing, then down the 3 steps to the hall, removed the facia where the thin twin was, and in with the new units.

 

[Scarlett]

We just put in the Asko units and so far are very happy with them. Was the only one we could find with a vented outside dryer, which in my opinion is the only kind to have. John gods luck with the install on our 53 they came down the forward hatch luckily.

 

[JD5652]

After careful inspection and some prodding with a putty knife ... I figured out that the hinge side of the forward state room door jamb was screwed in from the back side of the door jamb with brass screws.... I cut the brass screws with my Fein Tool... it was NOT glued to the wall... will have to cut the jamb at floor level and about 48" above floor level to remove the main part of the jamb... this should allow me to just ease the washer and dryer through the door... they are 23.5" wide and the door without that part of the jamb is 24" wide....

 

[Angela]

On my 58MY, I removed the trim around the forward hatch and dropped each piece (Bosch Axxis washer and matching dryer - stacking units) down the hatch. During my ownership, I got the pleasure of doing that TWICE. That was easier to me than the door jams.

 

[rourkeh]

I am getting ready to purchase new washer dryer and was wondering if anyone has looked at the Samsung DVE22N6850X dryer and matching washer WW22N6850QX.

Found them here https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/SAWADREIG2.html

I have the same clearance issues on my 61 CMY getting them down the stairs in the galley and companionway, but these look like they will fit as they are only 23 5/8" wide. Any reason no ne has mentioned these units?

 

[JD5652]

On my 58MY, I removed the trim around the forward hatch and dropped each piece (Bosch Axxis washer and matching dryer - stacking units) down the hatch. During my ownership, I got the pleasure of doing that TWICE. That was easier to me than the door jams.

Angela-

I plan to do the same as in removing the forward hatch trim and bringing the washer and dryer down through the hatch. However, the smallest dimension on the washer and/or dryer is 23.5 inches. My laundry closet on the 58 LRC is located down the companionway from the forward state room just outside the engine room. Therefore, the washer and dryer has to go thorugh the forward state room door and down the companionway.

The doorway opening without removing the door jamb is 22.5"... If I remove one side of the door jamb, that gives me 24" opening ... just enough to get the washer and dryer through the doorway and into the companionway.

 

[JD5652]

I am getting ready to purchase new washer dryer and was wondering if anyone has looked at the Samsung DVE22N6850X dryer and matching washer WW22N6850QX.

Found them here https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/SAWADREIG2.html

I have the same clearance issues on my 61 CMY getting them down the stairs in the galley and companionway, but these look like they will fit as they are only 23 5/8" wide. Any reason no ne has mentioned these units?

One of my primary requirements was that the dryer be a vented design. I see that the Samsung dryer is also vented. A couple main reasons I went with ASKO was that they do offer the vented dryer configuration and, when stacked, the overall dimensions were closest to the overall dimensions of my old Kenmore All-In-One laundry center. This afforded me installation with minimal modifications to the existing supports and area.

 

[Walter P]

Replacing appliances as they wear out is an ongoing process. It's disturbing that the designers of most
boats don't take this into consideration when they plan the details of a boat. It makes me think that
few, if any of them actually ever owned a boat. If they did they had to be brand new boats that rarely
needed to have appliance changes. What would it have taken to make the door openings just a little
bigger? Idiots......

Walt

 

[SEVEN]

Replacing appliances as they wear out is an ongoing process. It's disturbing that the designers of most
boats don't take this into consideration when they plan the details of a boat. It makes me think that
few, if any of them actually ever owned a boat. If they did they had to be brand new boats that rarely
needed to have appliance changes. What would it have taken to make the door openings just a little
bigger? Idiots......

Walt

Don’t hold back Walt. Lol you are so correct.

 

[jim rosenthal]

You know, for what this is going to cost in time and money, you could just buy a lot of clothing. Just saying.

Just kidding, too.

 

[Photolomy]

I am actually surprised that in many cases, the appliances will fit out through the salon staircase. That was a worry of mine when I first joined the site. In this case though, the stairway seems to prevent it. On my 53, even the fridge (without its door) can exit to the salon if lifted up over the back of the aft dinette bench. I wouldn't have thought that possible until I measured everything. Of course, it will take a few guys to make that maneuver.

 

[JD5652]

Here are some pics of the old ALL-In-One laundry center installed. I was able to remove the dryer from the top and get it out in one piece. However, the washer was a little more stubborn and got to meet my friends sawsall and Fein tool....

 

[JD5652]

 

[JD5652]

Here was a couple unexpected surprises related to the dryer..... the vent hose was VERY clogged... and the vent hose was not connected well at the hull side...

 

[Walter P]

Here was a couple unexpected surprises related to the dryer..... the vent hose was VERY clogged... and the vent hose was not connected well at the hull side...

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Just one more example of some idiot working close to quitting time at the factory. I actually made a
flange for mine that enabled me to remove and re install for cleaning purposes. Very simple....like the
simple minds that took the original short cut. I would expect to see something like that on a Bayliner
but not on a Hatteras.

Walt

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Just one more example of some idiot working close to quitting time at the factory. I actually made a
flange for mine that enabled me to remove and re install for cleaning purposes. Very simple....like the
simple minds that took the original short cut. I would expect to see something like that on a Bayliner
but not on a Hatteras.

Walt

Walt,
I think it was originally secured. It looks like the hose degraded over the years from water getting in the opening and heat cycling, and time. Its an old hose.

And this is no Bayliner.

 

[JD5652]

Walt,
I think it was originally secured. It looks like the hose degraded over the years from water getting in the opening and heat cycling, and time. Its an old hose.

And this is no Bayliner.

Sky-

You are correct... looked like the hose was orignal... 43 years old....