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53c like no other

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Thank you! What's really gotten my attention is the really poor condition of the cosmetics. Bringing her to the northeast, putting her through those winters has been hard. Lots of paint cracking quickly leads to paint peeling, etc. She shows poorly now simply due to these issues, but what's beneath the paint, what's out of the obvious sight of the lookers is the utter strength, lowered center of gravity, and incredible reliability of the vessel.

Again, I was able to take a terrific boat, very well built, and find all of the flaws of the construction process, and then address and improve those. As you stand aboard another 53c, or aboard any boat of this class, you have a sense of trust that is based upon the reputation of the builder.

The builders aren't perfect, and an attentive eye that can see the basic points of concern aboard a boat that has utterly nothing standing in the way of that view provides a very rare opportunity. A buyer can go find a repower with modern engines. A buyer isn't going to find work performed to this degree.

From the stringer rebuilds to correct the inherent hinge-points, so intermediate bulkheads that have been not only doubled in thickness, but have been saturated with resin and then glassed in fully, carrying the glass out 12-18 inches to spread the load of the forces while keeping the bulkheads 3/8" off and away from the hull of the boat to avoid that direct load causing eventual cracking. We integrated forward floor structure into the hull structure while improving the strength of the design all around the transom and engine room.

No buyer will ever replace the investment, and it's certainly a consideration that no money takes the place of the emotional relationship of being her parent. She's getting her cosmetics now, as she heads to the yard this week for a hull strip and refinish. The painter is beginning the prep work later this week as well. It's long overdue, and I can't wait for the final results. The work is overdue, and she'll be ready for the winter likely coming south to fish the season.
 
I'm done with ablative paint. Time for copper epoxy.
 
That would be a huge mistake

X10.

Ablative will not have a buildup like the hard or the epoxy copper. Spend $2,000 to remove it once and you'll understand.

Micron 66 is still my go to. It's been the number one paint we use with very few problems as long as you not in fresh water.
 
That would be a huge mistake

Why? The ablative simply doesn't work, doesn't hold up, doesn't deter anything other than boating.

A hard surface is going to perform better, and perhaps have a chance to not allow growth.
 
Top to bottom paint begins in two weeks. Shifting to metallic gray hull. Should be incredible.

Yay, just me but yellow makes boats look like a big banana and bananas are bad luck! The new color should look awesome! Yankee winters are tough on paint. Our boat was one of the first awl griped at Merrits in 74. We took the boat north in 76 for one winter in NJ and the awl grip cracked and peeled like potato chips. Got back to Fla the following winter and they refused to make good on repairs. Said if the boat was going north it should have been painted with Imron as it is more flexible. Kind of strange that airliners at the time were painted with Alumagrip and exposed to a lot worse temp extremes.
 
X10.

Ablative will not have a buildup like the hard or the epoxy copper. Spend $2,000 to remove it once and you'll understand.

Micron 66 is still my go to. It's been the number one paint we use with very few problems as long as you not in fresh water.

Scott, I'm spending far more than that to remove the ablative. The epoxy is merely a barrier coat...so the boat will have more barrier coat than currently in place. I don't see a day where this would need to be removed. If it doesn't deter growth just paint over it....

What am I missing?
 
Yay, just me but yellow makes boats look like a big banana and bananas are bad luck! The new color should look awesome! Yankee winters are tough on paint. Our boat was one of the first awl griped at Merrits in 74. We took the boat north in 76 for one winter in NJ and the awl grip cracked and peeled like potato chips. Got back to Fla the following winter and they refused to make good on repairs. Said if the boat was going north it should have been painted with Imron as it is more flexible. Kind of strange that airliners at the time were painted with Alumagrip and exposed to a lot worse temp extremes.

Yes, the winters beat the crap out of this paint. I don't know how much of it was purely winters versus simply "being due", but it certainly accelerated the time line.

Should be 100% by the end of September. I'll keep them coming.
 
Why? The ablative simply doesn't work, doesn't hold up, doesn't deter anything other than boating.

A hard surface is going to perform better, and perhaps have a chance to not allow growth.
What paint are you using? I've been using ablative paint since Interlux came out with Micron CSC about 25 years ago. My boat stays clean and we get at least 3 seasons out of it. I had my boat painted with Micron 66 when I was in FL. After 3 full years she was clean and in good condition when we hauled her the yard manager felt I didn't need to paint but I did it as I was already out for the winter.
 
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What paint are you using? I've been using ablative paint since Interlux came out with Micron CSC about 25 years ago. My boat stays clean and we get at least 3 seasons out of it. I had my boat painted with Micron 66 when I was in FL. After 3 full years she was clean and in good condition when we hauled her the yard manager felt I didn't need to paint but I did it as I was already out for the winter.

If micron is out of the water for any length of time it needs to be powerwashed to get it re invigorated. Its a multiseason paint with special process.

I was able to get 4.5 years on 3 coats of micron without issues. We generally paint 2 coats and a third ob the waterline. Customers average 3-4 years if properly cared for.
 
If micron is out of the water for any length of time it needs to be powerwashed to get it re invigorated. Its a multiseason paint with special process.

I was able to get 4.5 years on 3 coats of micron without issues. We generally paint 2 coats and a third ob the waterline. Customers average 3-4 years if properly cared for.
That's how I've done it and how it was done the last few times I've had boats painted. I used to haul the boat every winter and never had an issue the following spring when I relaunched. I've been wintering in the water for the past 10 years. I haul every third winter for bottom paint and maintenance. I've never had any hard growth or real fouling on the hull itself. The hardware is what needs painting first.
 
I did not paint my props this time. I will run at least once a week and see how that works. I can just swap them with spares if they seem fouled so I'm not too worried. Where I dock is very sa dy and I don't see any paint lasting.
 
What paint are you using? I've been using ablative paint since Interlux came out with Micron CSC about 25 years ago. My boat stays clean and we get at least 3 seasons out of it. I had my boat painted with Micron 66 when I was in FL. After 3 full years she was clean and in good condition when we hauled her the yard manager felt I didn't need to paint but I did it as I was already out for the winter.

Last haul was Seahawk Cukote. I had growth within weeks, despite the amount of use. Was never able to maintain performance. First round was their export product, and I had no issues for 5 years.

Crew has the boat set up, and soda blasting commences Monday morning.
 
I did not paint my props this time. I will run at least once a week and see how that works. I can just swap them with spares if they seem fouled so I'm not too worried. Where I dock is very sa dy and I don't see any paint lasting.

3 years and prop speed is still showing on the shafts and rudders. Props, not so much, but the running gear was all fairly clean. The bottom was a fur coat.
 
I've probably said this before somewhere, but I power wash and light sand on three year intervals and add one coat of Pettit Trinidad Pro. Effective and cheap way to go. I have the boat nine years and have no issue with this. Now if I wanted every possible fraction of a knot speed, maybe something else...

Bobk
 

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