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How accurate is NADA boat value on a 1970 53' Motor Yacht

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pizzazsdaddy said:
...Correctly Detailing a used car is $250. Detailing a 53 Hatteras for sale can easily hit $10,000-$30,000.
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If you need to spend that much it better be more than a detail. If the boat is bad enough to need 10K-30K just to clean it up it must be a real pig and at that point you need a whole lot more than a detail job.
 
saltshaker said:
If you need to spend that much it better be more than a detail. If the boat is bad enough to need 10K-30K just to clean it up it must be a real pig and at that point you need a whole lot more than a detail job.
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Maybe $1-3,000. You can only put so much lipstick on a pig. Beyond wash polish and shampoo there's not much more you can do to clean up a boat. After that it's no longer detailing but more like repairs.

But if someone offers me $30k to detail a boat I'll take it.
 
Have any of you guys on the west coast thought about putting one of these old girls on a rail car? We could ship 40 foot containers coast to coast for under 2000$. Hight may be a problem.But if you think about it containers go all over the hwy. Weight is not a issue i am sure. Are there any freight forwarders on the sight they can chime in . just wondering! On second thought i bet Hatteras checked it out. It takes about 7 days by rail from California to N.C.
I would suspect chocking covering up straping down and all the other b.s about 10 to 15000 max. About 20,000 all in
at max.
 
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tIM pOWELL said:
Have any of you guys on the west coast thought about putting one of these old girls on a rail car? We could ship 40 foot containers coast to coast for under 2000$. Hight may be a problem.But if you think about it containers go all over the hwy. Weight is not a issue i am sure. Are there any freight forwarders on the sight they can chime in . just wondering! On second thought i bet Hatteras checked it out. It takes about 7 days by rail from California to N.C.
I would suspect chocking covering up straping down and all the other b.s about 10 to 15000 max. About 20,000 all in
at max.
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What's the max width for rail transport? I've seen 2 high containers but they look too narrow compared to a hatt.
 
Boatsb said:
What's the max width for rail transport? I've seen 2 high containers but they look too narrow compared to a hatt.
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I do not know but some wide tanker cars go by.
 
I seem to remember reading an article about a 65' Chris Craft Constellation that was transported to the west coast by rail back in the '60's.
 
SKYCHENEY said:
I seem to remember reading an article about a 65' Chris Craft Constellation that was transported to the west coast by rail back in the '60's.
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we might get a fun business here Scott
 
Doug, if you can't find a Hatteras to your liking I am selling my 1965 46 Chris Craft Constilation. The cleanest Chris in all of California. Check it out in the Yachtsman. I also just put it on Craigslist. If interested I can send you photos. It's really beautiful.
 
Thank you guys for your knowledge.

Rusty, that looks like a beautiful Connie. I'm looking for a 3 cabin boat. I believe the 46' Connie is 2 cabins. I may be wrong.

Could you post more pics of the boat on Craigslist. I'm sure we'd all like to see them, and for anyone interested in buying her.

Regards,

Douglas
 
If you plan on preparing a 53 Hatteras for sale... let's add up the Pizzaz's daddy numbers.

$2,000 to wax and detail the exterior. $500 to haul and block for hull waxing. While you're there, you can add $2,000 more for a fresh coat of bottom paint. $2,000 more for a fresh coat of varnish on the handrails and exterior brightwork. $2,000 more to steam clean, paint and detail the engine room. $6,000 more for new high end carpet.

If you fix all the potential survey items ahead of time, all you need to do is maintain what's there until a buyer falls in love...

Whether it's done professionally or by you, it's about curb appeal. A majority of sellers fail to prepare or maintain their boats for showing.
 
Oh...and you are right SKYCHENEY. Chris Craft regularly shipped the largest new Roamer and Constellation models by rail.
 
pizzazsdaddy said:
If you plan on preparing a 53 Hatteras for sale... let's add up the Pizzaz's daddy numbers.

$2,000 to wax and detail the exterior. $500 to haul and block for hull waxing. While you're there, you can add $2,000 more for a fresh coat of bottom paint. $2,000 more for a fresh coat of varnish on the handrails and exterior brightwork. $2,000 more to steam clean, paint and detail the engine room. $6,000 more for new high end carpet.

If you fix all the potential survey items ahead of time, all you need to do is maintain what's there until a buyer falls in love...

Whether it's done professionally or by you, it's about curb appeal. A majority of sellers fail to prepare or maintain their boats for showing.
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Pizza it's not that simple. New carpet is not detailing. Bottom paint is not detailing. A grand or 3 to clean and polish a 53 is not out of line. Adding paint and varnish is no detailing in my book.

after doing all that to your boat how much off your original asking price did you sell for?
 
Didn't mean to upset you but in the Delta a wash and dry on my 53 is 53.00 dollars. A wash and hand wax detail is 530.00. I was just trying to state that a clean boat will sell much faster than a dirty boat. The brokers in the Delta do hose and dry their boats once a week so they show well and that s part of the berth fee they pay till it sells. Enough said.
 
Look for one that needs to be refreshed, not hauled full paint job, etc. The small clues in the survey say neglect, time to bail out of this if you ask me. We all continue to spend on regular maintenance, this number should not even be in the equation.
 
Thanks for picking up the maintenance neglect issue on the survey.

I'm passing on on this boat for now. Seller is not budging from high $130K. I'm not jumping in over $120K before doing my own surveys.

I don't need to spend $3k-$5K in surveys on a vessel that's already priced high. If it was priced right, I know surveys will always find something. I can either walk away or we can discuss a mutual number that makes us both happy.

The seller of this boat reminds me of my father in-law. He used to have this great classic Cadillac. He wanted to sell it but priced it above market value. After 1 year he lowered it, but still above current market value. After 10 years, he still had it, and now the tires were bad, engine had problems, plastic near the tail lights was cracking. He sold it for 5% of what he originally wanted. And, below current market value because now it was just taking too much space in his garage.

I've learned to price right. And in my current business, that is so true. If the home does not move, it's because it's not priced right. I always tell my clients, you can decline an offer, even at full price, or counter at a higher price. But, you can not do anything with no offers.

Time will only tell, if I buy this Alameda boat or another one comes up nearby.

Douglas
 
Hey Douglasl
Did you check out the 50 Hatteras just recently posted here, being offered on Ebay? And the owner is a member here? The pictures sure look good. If it really IS that nice, $79,000 gets you a whole lotta' Hatteras. The Hatteras 50 was the predecessor of the 53.
 
Yes, it's a very nice boat, but I'm looking for those extra sq feet. that the 53' has.

Also, I really don't know who could transport it to the west coast and for how much.

Douglas
 
Hi Douglasl
Knowledge is power. The hull of the Hatteras 50 and 53 are essentially the same. The first Hatteras 50 was delivered in Dec 1964. The only square footage you loose is in the rope locker forward, and the width of the main salon.

In the 1964 and '65 models, the side decks were so wide you could walk them arm in arm! In the 1967 model year, Hatteras adjusted that by building the 53 Deckhouse with narrower side decks to fit over the top of the 50. For styling purposes, Hatteras flared the bow differently with the introduction of the 1969 model which created the Hatteras 53.

From 1969 to 1976 or 77, The master and guest stateroom aft heads shared one shower, and the forward shower was a step down pan with a shower curtain. Stall showers for each stateroom didn't come on line until the 1976/1977 model year. Hatteras introduced the "island bridge" in the 1978 model year.

Also keep in mind, that if it's a real home-like interior you want with maximum use of space, you need to be looking at decade newer Ocean 48 and 53s. The Viking 50 and 55. And the Chris Craft 501. In my humble opinion, the "livability design" of each of those models blows the 53 away.

However, If you want the ultimate Hatteras 50/53? Check out AKEEVA. She's a stunning 50 Hatteras with the 53 deckhouse in the Seattle area. The owner is a member here, and she WAS previously listed for sale. If I were a west coast buyer looking for the best boat period, AKEEVA would be a hands down winner all day. (a bunch of photos of this boat are posted here somewhere)...
 
Pizza,

You're correct. I missed that.

The Akeeva would be a great buy, but it's over my budget. I want to stick at boats under $150,000.

Thanks,

Douglas
 
Update on Fantasea sale up in the San Francisco Bay.

It was purchased by another person. Per broker, it sold at $122,500 on August 13, 2015.

That was about $2,500 more than what I had offered back in March 2015.

Oh, well! I'm still searching for a good condition 53' Hatteras Motor Yacht in the West Coast.

Regards,

Douglas
 
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