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Delivering a Hatt from Costa Rica to Sarasota

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It's from Los Suenos too. Chris? No.
 
jmoritz said:
DD 8-92 TIs, either 550 or 650s I believe. Recently rebuilt. Still worth it IMHO.
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Then you are looking at an early 80's 50C II. There are a few in your area that may be worth looking at. That particular Hatt wasn't that popular due to the small cockpit and poor performance. Hatt stretched it 2ft to make the 52C. A much better boat and considerable more popular on the used market. They actually run faster and ride better with the extra 2ft aft. Make sure you understand the market for that boat before you get too deep into it. You might be surprised to find out what the actual sales figures are on them. Considering the cost to get her home she needs to be very cheap to be worth it. Some pretty decent 50C's have sold pretty cheap. A decent 46C or 45C will usually bring more than a 50C II. Looking at what's currently on yachtworld, they all are way overpriced and have been for sale for a long time. Given the cost to get her home and the expense of buying her, she needs to be around 50K to be worth it and even then she better be in very good condition.
 
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Ok thanks Saltshaker
 
saltshaker said:
Then you are looking at an early 80's 50C II. There are a few in your area that may be worth looking at. That particular Hatt wasn't that popular due to the small cockpit and poor performance. Hatt stretched it 2ft to make the 52C. A much better boat and considerable more popular on the used market. They actually run faster and ride better with the extra 2ft aft. Make sure you understand the market for that boat before you get too deep into it. You might be surprised to find out what the actual sales figures are on them. Considering the cost to get her home she needs to be very cheap to be worth it. Some pretty decent 50C's have sold pretty cheap. A decent 46C or 45C will usually bring more than a 50C II. Looking at what's currently on yachtworld, they all are way overpriced and have been for sale for a long time. Given the cost to get her home and the expense of buying her, she needs to be around 50K to be worth it and even then she better be in very good condition.
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How did you determine the 50 is slower than the 52?
 
rsmith said:
How did you determine the 50 is slower than the 52?
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I looked at a few 50C's many years ago. My mechanic worked on one here in NJ and the owner had bought a 65C. That's the first one I was on and sea trialed a few others after that. I then started looking at the 52C for the same reasons I mentioned before. I found the 52C's with the same power as the 50C's fan better. They don't squat as much and get on plane a bit sooner. All the 52's I was on seemed to run a bot 2kts faster. Others I've talked to about this agreed. Same seems to hold true for the 43C to 45C.
 
jmoritz said:
DD 8-92 TIs, either 550 or 650s I believe. Recently rebuilt. Still worth it IMHO.
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This is a big red flag... Recently rebuilt how? By who? Why?

By the time you get a good DD mechanic down there to look at the engines and make sure the rebuilt was not a spray can rebuilt, you ll be out $5k.

The boat really need to be cheap.
 
Pascal said:
This is a big red flag... Recently rebuilt how? By who? Why?

By the time you get a good DD mechanic down there to look at the engines and make sure the rebuilt was not a spray can rebuilt, you ll be out $5k.

The boat really need to be cheap.
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Hi Pascal. Assuming there is supporting documentation for an honest to goodness in frame rebuild, why would that be a red flag?

John
 
It can be an issue if someone did a bare bones rebuild just to sell the boat. If they were rebuilt by a reputable mechanic then it's a definite plus. If they were rebuilt a year or more ago and have a couple hundred hours SMOH, even better. Post some details about the boat and we may be able to offer more insight. She very well may be a good deal but without knowing anything about it it's hard to tell. Is this a 2 or 3 stateroom boat? If it's a 2 stateroom boat then plan on keeping it for ever, they're real hard to sell.
 
Since you are local, Check out Pat Bustle's 50C in Bradenton named Liquid Asset.
 
captddis said:
Since you are local, Check out Pat Bustle's 50C in Bradenton named Liquid Asset.
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Same power as what you're looking at and has been rebuilt/upgraded. Nice boat. Sent Pat a text to let him know you're looking.
 
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By the way, this boat is a potential donation to our nonprofit. Otherwise I would have looked at your boat first!
 
jmoritz said:
Hi Pascal. Assuming there is supporting documentation for an honest to goodness in frame rebuild, why would that be a red flag?

John
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Detailed in invoices for parts and machine shop is a good start. Checking out who did the rebuilt, talking to them to get details on what was done is also important.

The words "Recently rebuilt" are often used... To some sellers or brokers, it just means pulling the heads, putting cyl kits and closing it up.
 
Pascal said:
Detailed in invoices for parts and machine shop is a good start. Checking out who did the rebuilt, talking to them to get details on what was done is also important.

The words "Recently rebuilt" are often used... To some sellers or brokers, it just means pulling the heads, putting cyl kits and closing it up.
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Yes I agree. I intend to verify, thanks Pascal.
 
There was a discussion years ago on this site about "recently rebuilt", especially as it pertains to DDs. The general feeling was, I think, that you are better off with engines that were rebuilt with a good documentation about what was done and who did it, plus a few hundred hours of time on them to make certain that the rebuild was done correctly, proved by trouble-free operation of both of them over time. They all look great when they come out of the shop.
 
Pascal said:
Detailed in invoices for parts and machine shop is a good start. Checking out who did the rebuilt, talking to them to get details on what was done is also important.

The words "Recently rebuilt" are often used... To some sellers or brokers, it just means pulling the heads, putting cyl kits and closing it up.
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Most times that's all you need.
 
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