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Window Blinds

Maynard Rupp

Maynard Rupp

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36' CONVERTIBLE-Series II (1983 - 1987)
We are going to update the window treatements on our '86 36C. We have the factory cornice boards and curtains. We plan on re-covering the cornice boards. We would like to install 1" blinds. I have seen pictures of Hats that have what looks like a vertical upholstered boards between the sections of blinds. How are they made. What can be done with the steep angled forward side windows.
 
The bottom edge of window blinds can be conveniently held in place through the use of appx 2" (or choose a smaller size) diameter plastic wire wrpas/holders along the bottom. These are the white plastic circular shaped fasteners, with a small extension for fastening with a screw, sold by Home Depot to bundle and fasten wire bundles together. These are NOT the standard wire thin ties, but they are also made with a nub for a screw and might work as well.
Look in the electric wire area of the store... I cut out perhaps 1/8 of the circumference near the end to make release and attachment easy when my side salon blinds are raised and lowered. I use them along the salon sides to prevent the blinds from swinging when underway.
Home Depot vinyl blinds work well and are a great value, BUT the lower blind is steel..likely for weight to drop the blinds when released, and these lower blinds eventually rust. Perhaps a bit of spray paint before installation would retard this rusting.
 
Maynard, On my current boat, and the last several I have owned, I had the set up you ask about. Factory valences, and I created the vertical pieces and angled forward panels from the lighter weight "starboard" material, "Starlight" which is black in color. The top of the panel attaches behind the valence and the bottom I attached with small solid brass angles. The Starlight cuts easily, holds screws and staples pretty much like wood and will last forever BUT NOTE: it does not hold glue. I had an upholstery shop cover them with fabric for me, but you could easily do it yourself. If you need more detail, e-mail me and I will explain or send you photos.

Eric
 
Thanks Eric..I get the idea. Let me hold those thoughts until I get that project under way. As an aircraft mechanic I have miles of .032" stainless safety wire. I guess you can string that vertically through the blind and twist it cutely around a screw in the wood at the top and bottom. I do like the starlite idea though. There ar really two problems; keep them from swaying underway, and close the end gap to the outside when you want privacy at the dock. The forward sverly angled window is another concern.
 
I will try to post a few shots of the starlight "end boards" I did with the wood blinds on my last boat. We'll see if this works.....
 
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Gorgeous salon!
 
Nice of you to say, Thanks! I was in the Interior Design biz in a former life, some 20 years ago. I guess I still have an eye for it.
 
Boy, "Sea Eric", I need you. Your salon is gorgeous. Our boat is a 1986 36C with the original interior except for new carpet. That factory stuff had wild stripes and such. If you go to the brochure archive section of the web site you can look at the sales brochure for the later 36 convertable, "BS" and you will see what I mean. Ours isn't that gaudy but still bad. At least you will see the basic layout of these boats. Ours also has the inside helm option so I need to keep a view through those angled, forward side windows. I would love to hear your thoughts..Thanks
 
You need to see the "before" shots to appreciate what Eric did with that boat...like the electric keyboard screwed to the wall etc. It's as good as any yacht interior I've ever seen, and he did the work himself. The outside, incidentally, is getting close to the interior quality. Did I mention he uses the boat all the time too?
 
Maynard, Its really quite easy to decorate an interior when you start with a quality built boat that is all teak inside. Question: How often do you use the lower station? I have some ideas to share for those windows, but the need for that visibility for steering from below is a variable. Please advise.

If you were in Md. or points south, I'd come visit. But you're in Michigan. Brrrrr.

Jim: You're confused. The photos I "posted" are of my former 42' Post FBSF 1981. I did her a few years back and no longer own her. She is, however for sale currently listed on YachtWorld. My project now is the boat Jim referred to. She is a 1970 Matthews 46 which is a Hargrave design, hull by Halmatic in England to Lloyd's specs. Not a Hatt, but a pedigree boat none the less. She is coming along nicely. This one is a keeper. I'm growing weary of rebuilding vintage glass boats.
 
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BRRRR is exactly correct Sea Eric.. It has been down in the single didgets at night for the last week. Not fun. We do use the lower helm as this, like most boats with lower helms, has only a bimini top for the flybridge. When the weather is foul, or of course cold, we use the lower helm. I really like it except you lose the sensation of speed. You really don't look out those windows, but I would hesitate to obscure them. I guess that even though you look through the windshields and side glass, you would feel stupid if a boat that was right in that view had to avoid you. If you ever do get to Detroit I would love to show you the boat. In the winter it lives inside in heated storage. I work on it all winter in shirt sleeves.
 
Damn, you're right....there is a certain resemblance of style, but I wasn't paying attention. Oh well. Too much Xmas cheer. Too much work. Too much something. :o :o :o
 
That must be true luxury having the boat in heated winter storage. I can't imagine what that must cost.

On the window blinds, what you may consider is this: At the aft end of the blinds, instead of the board like in my photos, have a panel of pleated drapery that is attached at the top, behind the valence that hangs down overlapping the edge of the blind by about 3". At the bottom, it would be nice if there was an edge mounted board run horizontally that the hold down for the blind would tie into and the bottom of the drapery could attach with button fasteners. On the forward end, have a triangular pleated drapery panel made that would likewise overlap the blind and button on at the top, bottom and angled side so it could be easily removed when visibility was needed. You may also want to consider the smaller fabric pleated shades instead of blinds. The reason is that blinds have a longer "stacking" height, so that even when pulled all the way up, they still may hang down below the Hatteras valance board by a few inches, blocking the visibility some. The pleated shades stack very tightly and would probably disappear entirely behind the valance when pulled up all the way making for a clean line visually. "Next Day Blinds" which has an internet site www.greatwindows.com is a good source for blinds and shades. Always happy to help however I may.
 
Great ideas..Thanks Eric. The heated winter storage is $2600.00. Not great, but eliminates winterising, shrink wrap etc.
 
Heated winter storage.....well, I can dream about it, anyway. The cover for my boat was finally finished and zipped in place last night. No heat, though. $2600 is a deal, Maynard. Even my cars don't get that kind of royal treatment. Indoors, yes- heated, 'fraid not.
 
Re: Winter Cover

Hey Jim how did the cover come out and can you post some pictures???
Sorry for highjacking this thread!!
 
I wanted to send a couple pictures of how I handled the window treatment in my boat. I can't seem to post pictures. Can someone explain the procedure?

Tony D
 
Hit reply, then go down to the bottom of the page after the text box. There's a section that says "Additional Options" Second choice there is Attach files. Hit that rectangular button that says "Manage Attachments" Hit Browse, find the file, open it, hit "Upload" once its there, close that window and hit the usual "Submit Reply" I think that should do it.
 
Cover looks good. I will take some photos today, I have to go check on her. Then I have to figure out how to post them. My backup plan is mail them to Eric, but maybe I can do this. Watch this space for further details, as they say on TV.
 
Sea Eric,

Thanks for the directions, I feel like a turkey, I don't think I looked down there before. Anyway, here's a couple pictures of how I handled the window treatment in our 36, I wish I had a before and after, the original window treatments were like new but really crazy, they made you dizzy just looking at them. I offered them on this site for free a few years ago after I used them for templates, no takers, no wonder. Well I keep trying to post the pictures, still no luck? Found the problem, pictures are too big, I'll have to shrink them.
Tony D
 
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