Whale Gulper IC installed

[wpc691]

Bought a Whale Gulper IC about 6 months ago to resolve the unsatisfactory “bilge as a shower sump” situation. Finally got around to installing before company arrived last week. Four of them stayed on the boat at the dock, so it got a workout, and worked perfectly. The picture is rotated 90 deg clockwise. You can see the a/c condensate drain entering the IC manifold from the top (actual left) and the shower drain entering from the bottom (actual right). No more wet, musty forward bilge. The aft bilge/sump is tighter, and will be a little more of a challenge, but I’m going to make it work. Assuming it’s reliable (others have attested to that), it seems a much cleaner solution than a sump box, as long as you only have two drains to connect.

 

[jrbrein]

Mike,

I have been a great fan of the Whale Gulper as a shower pump thus eliminating the sump box. Years ago we had a sailboat with a bath tub and my very young daughters loved taking baths. The sump box could not keep up with the draining bathtub. I switched over to the Whale gulper and have not looked back!

Are you happy using it to pump the AC condensate? I am not familiar with this set up.

Jon

 

[wpc691]

Mike,I have been a great fan of the Whale Gulper as a shower pump thus eliminating the sump box. Years ago we had a sailboat with a bath tub and my very young daughters loved taking baths. The sump box could not keep up with the draining bathtub. I switched over to the Whale gulper and have not looked back!Are you happy using it to pump the AC condensate? I am not familiar with this set up.Jon

Hi Jon; It seems to work great for the condensate line. Actually, the condensate line is the reason I went with the IC water sensing feature. If it was only the shower drain, I would have just piped it direct into a Gulper and used the sump switch in the head while showering. In the aft sump, I’ll use the two ports for the shower and aft deck sink drains.

 

[davidwigler]

Bought a Whale Gulper IC about 6 months ago to resolve the unsatisfactory “bilge as a shower sump” situation. Finally got around to installing before company arrived last week. Four of them stayed on the boat at the dock, so it got a workout, and worked perfectly. The picture is rotated 90 deg clockwise. You can see the a/c condensate drain entering the IC manifold from the top (actual left) and the shower drain entering from the bottom (actual right). No more wet, musty forward bilge. The aft bilge/sump is tighter, and will be a little more of a challenge, but I’m going to make it work. Assuming it’s reliable (others have attested to that), it seems a much cleaner solution than a sump box, as long as you only have two drains to connect.

Can you post a link to this product? This is all I found and it is different:

https://www.defender.com/expanded.jsp?path=-1|51|2234226|2234234&id=1612504

 

[ageless]

Can you post a link to this product? This is all I found and it is different:

https://www.defender.com/expanded.jsp?path=-1|51|2234226|2234234&id=1612504

same product

https://www.whalepumps.com/marine/p...ID=10021&FriendlyID=Electric-grey-waste-pumps

 

[ageless]

how did you wire yours? 12 or 24?

 

[wpc691]

12V, straightforward hookup.

 

[ageless]

12V, straightforward hookup.

Since electricity is my arch nemesis:

if my Rule 2000 32v draws 3.1 amps and the whale gulper 24v pulls 3.25 amps@1m of suction lift with a range of 21.6-27.2 V d.c I'm assuming the gulper would not operate correctly if I were to utilize the Rule's power source?

 

[wpc691]

Since electricity is my arch nemesis:if my Rule 2000 32v draws 3.1 amps and the whale gulper 24v pulls 3.25 amps@1m of suction lift with a range of 21.6-27.2 V d.c I'm assuming the gulper would not operate correctly if I were to utilize the Rule's power source?

You and I share the same arch nemesis, but I wouldn’t expect that to work well, at least for long (I assume you’re talking about running the Gulper on the existing 32V circuit?). How about a dc-dc converter?

 

[SKYCHENEY]

I'll bet you could use one of their grey water tanks with a 32v pump. The switch shouldn't care what voltage it is.

 

[davidwigler]

This should work:


https://www.amazon.com/Proshopping-...la-805076888823&ref=&adgrpid=74356900777&th=1

 

[q240z]

I installed a Gulper last month to replace a Jabsco belt-drive diaphragm pump that kept losing suction. So far, I'm very impressed with the Gulper's performance. The only thing I'm not keen on is that while the pump itself is quiet, it makes a heck of a racket at the shower drain.

 

[wpc691]

I installed a Gulper last month to replace a Jabsco belt-drive diaphragm pump that kept losing suction. So far, I'm very impressed with the Gulper's performance. The only thing I'm not keen on is that while the pump itself is quiet, it makes a heck of a racket at the shower drain.

Yes, that glugging sound isn’t attractive...until I look in the bilge/sump and it’s bone dry...then I feel better about it )))

 

[ageless]

This should work:


https://www.amazon.com/Proshopping-...la-805076888823&ref=&adgrpid=74356900777&th=1

great find--thank you

 

[Reefgeorge]

So the idea here is that you have no sump/reservoir box at all, the pump handles the grey water flow real time?

Thanks,

George

 

[davidwigler]

great find--thank you

I’m not sure if it’s better to wire the converter before the switch so that it’s on all the time, or after the switch so it cycles on and off. One of you electronics gurus could weigh in on that.

 

[jrbrein]

So the idea here is that you have no sump/reservoir box at all, the pump handles the grey water flow real time?

Thanks,

George

That is correct.

I love the gulping sound it makes...lets me know that my plumbing is working!!


Jon

 

[nautibake]

So the idea here is that you have no sump/reservoir box at all, the pump handles the grey water flow real time?

Thanks,

George

This sounds like a great solution for several issues I have. One is that the Rule switches keep failing in the sump tank. The other issue is a couple of AC condensation drain lines that tend to back up (and they drain into the bilges). I have to pro-actively wet-vac out every few weeks or they back up and leak in other areas. I'm wondering if the Whale Gulper pump would provide a similar effect as the wet-vac on the AC drain line? Also, if there is no sump tank, how does the pump know when to engage?
Thanks!
Jerry

 

[wpc691]

This sounds like a great solution for several issues I have. One is that the Rule switches keep failing in the sump tank. The other issue is a couple of AC condensation drain lines that tend to back up (and they drain into the bilges). I have to pro-actively wet-vac out every few weeks or they back up and leak in other areas. I'm wondering if the Whale Gulper pump would provide a similar effect as the wet-vac on the AC drain line? Also, if there is no sump tank, how does the pump know when to engage?Thanks!Jerry

Hi Jerry; if you look at the photo I posted, you’ll see the black wire running from the back of the manifold. This connects a solid state sensor in the manifold (Whale’s version of the Johnson Ultima switch) to the pump. When water reaches the level of the sensor, it turns the pump on. When the water drops, there’s a 15 second delay, then the pump shuts off. There is an additional lead from the pump that allows connection for switched manual override. Since there are two lines draining into the manifold, the pump might pull a vacuum on a plugged condensate line when the shower is running, but hard to say if it would be strong enough to clear a plug. I’ve tried a lot of different potions in my condensate lines. At the moment, the blue Home Depot pan tabs and a white vinegar flush every couple of months seems to be working well. I still use the wet vac once or twice a year.

 

[nautibake]

Hi Jerry; if you look at the photo I posted, you’ll see the black wire running from the back of the manifold. This connects a solid state sensor in the manifold (Whale’s version of the Johnson Ultima switch) to the pump. When water reaches the level of the sensor, it turns the pump on. When the water drops, there’s a 15 second delay, then the pump shuts off. There is an additional lead from the pump that allows connection for switched manual override. Since there are two lines draining into the manifold, the pump might pull a vacuum on a plugged condensate line when the shower is running, but hard to say if it would be strong enough to clear a plug. I’ve tried a lot of different potions in my condensate lines. At the moment, the blue Home Depot pan tabs and a white vinegar flush every couple of months seems to be working well. I still use the wet vac once or twice a year.

Thanks Mike! Okay, now it makes perfect sense. I have a Whale Gulper pump that i had intended to use as an extra bilge pump, but I think I may re-purpose it for the forward sump and an AC condensate, looks like a great set up! Jerry