Suvey - dumb question #1

[tellico]

This could be the first of several, so thanks in advance.

In prep for survey, lets say boat bottom is ok, not too much growth, so basic short haul scrape should do it.

But - if props/shaft/rudders are pretty heavily fouled - I am assuming these should be cleaned off good by the pro's for the sea trial, right? If so, who pays - seller, buyer? Or is it all nego?

As buyer, I pay for the haul, but do I pay to get boat in condition for sea trail? (unfor my experience is with sailboats, and a sailboat sea trial is basically an oxymoron!)

 

[Boatsb]

The seller pats to have the boat cleaned for the seatrial. If it needs power wash and scrape make sure it's clean after or performance will suffer on seatrial.

 

[saltshaker]

Not a dumb question at all. I've paid for haul and wash when I was the buyer. I always assume the bottom should get a wash when it's hauled. If I'm going to survey and sea trial I go into it with the anticipation of being the new owner so I want it right. If the bottom has excessive fouling the seller should pay for any additional charges

 

[bobk]

If it needs zincs, and you are pretty confident you will be buying it, you might want to have them installed during the haul out. When I sold the trawler, the buyer paid the haul and wash. When I surveyed the Hatteras, the owner paid so that can go either way.

Bobk

 

[BobWaz]

In addition hopefully you will do a compression test on the engines. Pay for new plugs to go in assuming they are gas. Again with the idea the boat will probably be yours.

 

[Glory]

Plan on the bottom being clean, forget who pays for it, even if it it you. Your surveyor will do a better job if the bottom I clean and the sea trial will be more conclusive.

JM

 

[tellico]

Thanks all. Good insight. I necessarily don't mind paying, esp if I own the boat. I am just thinking ahead (prob too much) want to understand the starting points and liab if I do not buy it in the end.

btw - it's diesels.

 

[pizzazsdaddy]

Buyer should pay to haul it and re-splash only. The seller should have a professional bottom cleaning done, and zincs if needed, on the day BEFORE the haul out and survey. It's only a couple of hundred dollars that makes a better impression on the buyer and the surveyor. Beyond that, it's the buyers expense.

 

[capttonyf]

It's in the seller and the buyers best interest to have it cleaned. That being said, as a buyer I, and or as a buyers agent, I always assume that the buyer will probably be covering the cleaning as well as the haul out. My reason for this is the seller may be on a schedule to have a diver come inspect and clean it every four weeks, or right before he's going on a long cruise. If you schedule a survey on the 3rd or 4th week just before his diver is scheduled to do it, then the seller shouldn't have to incur extra expense because of your sea trial.

Now if the bottom is a complete mess because of total lack of maintenance then let your broker work that expense into your counter offer on your "Acceptance of Vessel". This is a legal form stating that your accepting or not accepting the condition of the vessel as is or at the current price. This is when you would negotiate further if need be in order to make your final renegotiated Acceptance of Vessel stating with these cost/offer adjustments I accept the vessel and will continue with the closing process.

All of that being said "Most" not all but "Most" yards if you survey there will give you a 1 free haul out and launch within 90 days of the survey if you decide to go ahead with the purchase of the boat and want additional bottom maintenance done.

Tony

 

[yachtbrokerguy]

The common approach here in Fort Lauderdale is for the buyer to pay for hauling and pressure washing. The seller should pay to have the boat ready for sea trial which usually means the seller pays to acid wash the propellers. The props need to be clean to find out if the engines will get to proper RPM. I do not like to see a boat that had new zincs put on the day before, as I would prefer to see the condition of the zincs. If the zincs need to be replaced I suggest it be done while hauled and paid for by the buyer. If the deal does not happen then the seller should reimburse the buyer for the zincs.