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Ok Guys! What RPM'S should I be running at cruise.I have a 1973 43 DC with 671N DD. I have been running 12 miles an hour at 2000 RPM.. My props are 26D X 24P. For every 100 RPM. I gain 1/2 MPH. Does this look correct. What should the WOT be for 671's? I have not checked for this.Also I am not sure the tachs are correct. I do not have a sync. The lower helm tachs seam to be working correct. The bridge tachs are +500 and -500. The bridge tachs are electrical and the lower tachs are cable driven,I think. Any ideas on checking the tachs. I could just buy new tachs, but I don't know which ones are bad. I set the motors from the lower station and drive from the bridge.Any ideas. Bill
 
Something is not right. We had a 1975 43DC with 671n's and we would cruise at 18mph at 1900 and about 21mph at WOT.
 
This is from the perspective of a 1972 43' MY with 310HP rated Johnson and Towers 6-71N's. They are rated at 2,500 rpm max, but the most I have ever seen is 2,450 rpm. I use the rule of thumb that max cruise is max RPM at WOT, minus 200 rpm. However, I have found that for some reason she is "happiest" at 2,150 rpm, which is where I cruise.

Sidebar is that reduced rpm approach includes some oil consumption issues, plus that the right engines runs a little warmer, only 2-3 degrees, but runs just below indicated 180, at 2250rpm. However, I have addressed some of those issue sources. E.g, oil leaks at old hoses and seals, since replaced and oil consumption is quite a bit lower as of late. I had always heard that 1-1.5 qts /10 hours run time was acceptable, while some owners say never used "any". Lately, I seem to be using much less than before, almost none really, so I am curious if that is for real.

Factors that affect my over the ground speed include:
> depth of water...a pushback bow wave effect kicks in about 25 foot depth water, knocking off about 1/2-3/4 mph.
> cleanliness of hull...she is slower for a few miles, after she has been sitting for a couple weeks, as some of accumulations run off. We have a little slime, plus collections of water weeds, as I am moored in a relatively fast moving river, whish brings weeds to us.
> load in the vessel: She feels like she is flying, if I am low on fuel, the water tank is low, as well as the holding tanks. Those tanks when full add several thousand pounds of weight: 400 gals, plus 120 gals, plus 2@135 gals or so: approx 800 gals at 8#'s=6,400 #'s. Also, passengers add weight, so it all adds up.
> uphill or downhill, i.e. into a sea or running with the sea. A 1-3' sea can reduce or increase speed by 1-1.5 knots, if running into the sea or running with it.

At any rate, when running at 2,150 rpm, ground speed can vary from 14.4 to 16.0 knots, usually closer to 14.7 as a rule, but as high at 15.3 knots. These are GPS observations. I haven't made the knot to mph conversion here.

Last year when running into 4-5 foot slightly quartering seas, I did check down to 2,000 rpm for a better ride at about 12.5-13 knots. We did not pound, but did throw our share of spray and some green water. Hull speed of around 9.0 knots is at about 1,400rpm.

Weekend was fabuous in Northern Michigan!
 
The motors sound good. Does the prop pitch sound correct. The previous owner said the boat cruises at 16 MPH. I have not seen that. Like my first post said, I don't know if the tachs are correct. So I have been taking it easy. Bill
 
Which way do they run best? Bow up or down. Bill
 
My 1979 43DC with J&T 310 HP 6-71N's are getting very similar results as Spartan's above. Sounds like your props might not be right. Mine are 24x24.
 
same boat, with J&T 310 hp . Props are 24x24. At 2150 we are at about 16 knts depending on depth. WOT is 2500 rpm 1500 rpm is 10 knts
 
On our 1973 43' DC we too have DD 6-71Ns. BEFORE the admiral brought all her "stuff" on board (we do live on board so I had to OK it,like she would of listened anyway) we topped out at 2450 rpm and 18 kts.
We now run 1100 rpm normally and get 9 kts ( 6 gph w/ 9 kw gen running), like, at 1500 rpm we get 11kts, 1950 rpm 14 kts and now top out at 16 kts at WOT...
 
wow! my boay sure seems slow after reading the previos posts.@ indicated 2050 rpm the gps reads12 knots(37c J & T 671n's) 1/2 water/fuel
 
I just dropped off a set of props to be reworked to 24X24. Im putting them on friday and going on a 150 mile cruise. I'll what happens.Bill
 
For anyone’s info and use, here are some performance numbers from today’s run on my 1979 43DC with 310 HP Johnson & Towers 6-71N’s (DD) with N-80 injectors (3300 hrs). The racks were set and calibrated 120 hours ago; fresh oil change; fresh fuel filters; and the bottom was clean. 24x24 props. In fresh water at average water depth of 80 feet with 8-10 mph head wind and 1-2 foot swells.

1200 rpm - 7.3 knots
1400 rpm - 8.2 knots
1600 rpm - 9.3 knots
1800 rpm - 10.1 knots
2000 rpm - 11.2 knots
2200 rmp - 12.8 knots
2450 rmp (WOT) - 16.4 knots

Fuel burn per engine according to FloScans:

1200 rpm - 1.5 gal/hr
1400 rpm - 2.5 gal/hr
1600 rpm - 5 gal/hr
1800 rpm - 7 gal/hr
2000 rpm - 9 gal/hr
2200 rpm - 11.5 gal/hr
2450 rpm - 15 gal/hr
 
I just found out today that the previous owner was running 24DX25P. I am going to change props tomarrow to the 24X25. Maybe I can get the speed up to where it should be. Bill
 
My sheepish apology that my post indicated speeds were in knots, but in fact were all in statute mph...sorry for any inconvenience. eze2beme had a very good post with good numbers.
 

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