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Replacing Air Compressor on DD 8V92TI

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Bill Root

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Some time ago I posted a message soliciting input on how best to replace a faulty air compressor unit on the DD 8V92's in my 1988 54MY. I received much good advice for which I am very grateful.

One of the considerations for which repair/replacement method to use is that an oil supply line runs through the compressor on my engine. My mechanic indicated to me that he had seen these lines leak frequently, and also that the engine-mounted compressor caused some power loss, although admittedly not much. Another consideration is that the compressor system on my boat is set up to feed a ten gallon air tank mounted on the aft bulkhead of the port engine room. The air horns and other air lines are fed from this tank, not directly from the compressor. Considering all these factors, I decided to replace the engine-mounted compressor with a free-standing compressor unit.

The replacement process was quite simple. We removed the engine mounted compressor, connected the oil supply lines going to/from it together, and installed a plate to cover the compressor gear drive hole in the engine. I purchased a six gallon Porter Cable pancake compressor at Home Depot for about $129. It fit perfectly on the floor aft of the box covering the stabilizer units. I built a square "pad" to go under it, attached the unit legs w/rubber feet to the pad, then screwed the pad to the floor. From that point it was a simple matter to plumb the air hoses through the new compressor to the bulkhead-mounted air tank. We set the compressor to maintain 90lbs. pressure in it's air tank at all times. Power to the compressor is supplied from the 120V outlet in the engine room.

We tested the above arrangement on our 500 mile trip from Ft. Lauderdale to Sanford in October. It worked fine the entire trip. We used the air horns frequently due to the number of bridge openings and fishermen anchored mid channel on the ICW and St. Johns River.The compressor is quite loud when it's running. This is not a problem when the boat is running, of course, but it is annoying when at the dock or on the hook. My solution to that problem has been to make sure the air tank is fully charged prior to shutting down the engine, then unplugging it until I'm ready to get underway again.

The total cost to convert to the free-standing compressor unit was less than $300, including the mechanic labor to install it. A reasonably skilled owner could probably do it themselves for only the cost of the pancake compressor, the engine cover plate and a piece of wood for the compressor mounting plate. When the compressor goes bad, just pitch it in the trash, buy another one from HD, and hook it up to the air lines. Simple.
 
Bill,
How about putting in a low voltage contactor to turn on the air compressor circuit only when the engine is running? You could hook it to the key switch or the fuel pressure switch and you wouldn't have to worry about the compressor running when you didn't need it.
 
Any thoughts on making this a DC solution? Just wondering what happens when the genny isn't running when the boat is. There are a few times that I'm only going out for a half hour or 45 minute cruise, that I won't turn the genny on (or forget to turn the genny one) - I prefer to turn her on away from the dock and any submerged trash that might be laying in wait... It would sort of "blow" to not having horns when I wanted them (I use them frequently in the small boat channel I come in/out of while taking my half of the middle!).
 
The portable contractor compressors are cheap and very noisey. I have seen much quieter ones with belt drives that were a bit more expensive but seemed worth it.
 
I have a 4,000 watt inverter, so AC power while underway is not a problem. I realize the solution I chose may not be right for everyone, but space was also a consideration for me. The more expensive compressors were quieter but also larger so wouldn't fit in the space I have available. You don't hear it anyway while the engines are running.
 
The oil lines should have been plugged not connected together. You have allowed the oil to return to the oil pan from an open line.

JM
 
Glory:

Please explain your comment. As I understand it, the oil line was originally set up to run through the compressor to lubricate it. Why would simply by-passing the compressor be a problem? Seems like nothing in the oil line system has changed?

I'm not a mechanic, but the people in Ft. Lauderdale who did the work are highly regarded DD guys. That doesn't mean they may not have taken a short-cut that shoud have been done better, of course.

Thanks
 
Bill... I dont know if the recirc on the oil supply is bad or not, but why not pull and plug where the hoses go in the event of a hose failure? I know that sounds stoopid, but a do gooder checking your oil some day is gonna grab that hose for leverage and bust it. ws

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Good point, YW. Thanks.
 
I took my compressor off probably at least 20 years ago. Plugged all the lnes at the engine tap offs.I believe if you connect the oil lines together you'll be dumping oil supply pressure back to the pan which will take oil away from the engine.
 
Thank you. These are all good points. I think I had better follow up with the mechanics who did the job.
 
I took my compressor off probably at least 20 years ago. Plugged all the lnes at the engine tap offs.I believe if you connect the oil lines together you'll be dumping oil supply pressure back to the pan which will take oil away from the engine.


I would hafta agree with that Schmidt! The compressor internals are providing an "orificing condition" via clearances and restrictions. Hose to hose probably wont cause a critical loss of pressure, but with my tired motors every little bit helps! ws
 
Glory:

Please explain your comment. As I understand it, the oil line was originally set up to run through the compressor to lubricate it. Why would simply by-passing the compressor be a problem? Seems like nothing in the oil line system has changed?

I'm not a mechanic, but the people in Ft. Lauderdale who did the work are highly regarded DD guys. That doesn't mean they may not have taken a short-cut that shoud have been done better, of course.

Thanks


If the engine didn't have an air compressor the ports the lines orignate from would have been plugged. Sending the oil on a free fall back to the oil pan is a waste of oil pressure, how ever small it may be.

Also the hoses may at some time fail, and the mess not to mention the ramifacations of low oil level.

JM
 
All good points. Thank you.
 

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