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Rafting up?

Imthebeachgirl

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Hi, I was wondering what your opinions were about rafting up? Being new to boating, and seeing how our little 20 foot boat moves and handles...when we have a bigger boat (say 40-48 ft.) is it ok to raft up, are there certain precautions you must take to reduce the chances of hitting the other boats, etc?
 
Great question! Raft-ups are still very common on larger boats, you just have to use the appropriate size (or larger) fenders. I saw two of Jim Moran's Feadships (Gallant Lady) rafted up last summer in the Abaco's. One was 160' and the other a 145'. You should have seen the size of THOSE fenders! INCREDIBLE!
 
i don't really like rafting up, unless conditions are perfect. Wakes are a big problem around here and even with large fenders, the stress on lines and fenders is still pretty big.

on larger boats where you are more likely to have a good and easy to deploy tender, it's just as easy to anchor close by and use the tender. probably takes me less time to launch my tender than pulling out a bunch of fenders and lines...

other issues include generator exhaust... eventhough diesel dont normally produce the deadly level of CO of gas, the smell of the diesel exhaust trapped bet. hulls isnt' pleasant...
 
If you do happen to raft up and a genny is running, be sure to tie up on the OTHER side of your neighbor's genny exhaust or you'll be scrubbing a big black spot off of your boat where your neighbor's exhaust was afterwards.

Like Pascal said, I'd be hesitant to raft up here because of the wakes/waves in this area, unless conditions were just perfect, and I haven't seen that setting down here yet. :) I was more relaxed about it when I was on a lake and would raft up every weekend.
 
Pascal, you made some good points. I guess we're lucky that most of our anchorages are fairly calm. I do always make sure gen exhausts are not blown on the neighbor's boat/between hulls of course. The gen I use most of the time exits the transom so that makes things easier. I always have two large fenders at the ready, so I usually just pop them over the side and if the other raftee does the same thing it is actually quite quick and easy.

We do get some wakes, but when you're tied and sprung somewhat snugly against the fenders, there is little movement and does not seem overly stressful on any lines or cleats. Heck, they had better not have a problem tying to another moveable object if they're supposed to hold us to a dock in a storm!

IMHO, one of the side benefits of anchoring is the option of rafting with some close (read: invited) friends. It's so nice to be able to have your "houses" immediately next door for a few hours or an overnight. Cast off a few lines and you're free at a moment's notice. The only problem is when you have people that are more like acquaintences than close friends that want to raft. This is where privacy becomes an issue. I would suggest only rafting with others that you would/would have spend the night at your home.

The anchoring seperately and driving the dinghy over is much more formal and private like going to someone's house for dinner, etc which is more appropriate for those you may not know (or wish to know) very well! Also, if you drink you will eventually have to drive the dinghy. I know people who have gotten a DUI driving a 9' tender with a 5hp outboard from one boat immediately and directly to another in the same anchorage. While at anchor (rafting or not) it is an extension of your home and it is my understanding that you CANNOT be boarded unless you are underway, therefore no public drunkedness or DUI etc. so it is much safer for the cocktailing folks. I have heard that Wildlife and Fisheries can still board to check for fishing licenses, etc. if you have fishing gear or rods on display, so take those rods down and below when they're not in use! LOL

So, take the above mentioned precautions and raft-up and enjoy! In our cruising clubs we often have 4 or 5 50' boats rafted up in an anchorage and we all produce food in our respective galley's and gather on aft decks for pot-luck meals. It really is a blast (and easy) when rafted, but we do carry hot foods over in dinghy's when appropriate as well.
 
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I love rafting up reguardless of boat size. If done right and in a quiet anchorage there should be no problems. Pascal, Ang, NNH or university docks in Elliot key comes to mind.
 
No one is rafting up to my fresh Awl Grip job! No way! :D
 
SeaEric said:
No one is rafting up to my fresh Awl Grip job! No way! :D

What! when did ya do that?
 
Rafting can be a lot of fun, but can also be dangerous. There are lots of things to consider, size of boats, ground tackle, weather, wakes etc. We had 7-8 cruisers rafted in NE MD some years back when a storm came through. Had to do an emergency dismantling of the raft (problems often occur after too much libation), and in the process a cleat was pulled out and hit a guy in the eye. A couple of years ago we saw a large raft drift through the same anchorage until they went aground. Winds were well beyond gale force, and those jerks just continued to party as they dragged through the anchorage. They were all Nike boats.

But yes, you can raft. And it is quite easy to tie up a raft and take it apart if you do it right, and the boats won't even touch each other in normal circumstances. The proceedure I like would go as follows: the biggest, heaviest boat sets anchor and allows more than normal scope. Vessels approach the center boat with two lines ready to deploy, first is a foward spring from the aft cleat, the second is a bow line to link the bows. After that, add an aft spring and stern lines from opposite corners of the rafted boats. That allows the boats to move in waves without straining the stern lines and cleats. Repeat on the opposite side for a third boat, and so on. I personally don't like more than three boats on a raft overnight, and then only in protected anchorages with settled weather. You do want to use fenders between the boats, and another litle trick is to set the bows apart a bit more than the sterns, that way current and wind will tend to hold them apart.

Bob
 
Silly as this may seem, I was about to ask what the term Rafting-up meant.

Now I see it means when a group of boaters all tie together.

Amazing all the neat things we learn here. :D
 
SeaEric, I can relate to your reservations but with proper care and fenders it should be just fine. Three coats of Awlgrip were sprayed on the hull of Sweet Melissa just yesterday yet I still will not fear future raft-ups nearly as much as un-familiar docks with cross-currents and unexpected wind gusts! The boot stripe should go on Tuesday while they prepare to spray the flybridge with primer.
 

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And one last thing, put out lots of fenders and have plenty of lines ready. You ablolutely cannot depend on the boat coming in next to you to have decent fenders, lines and in the right place especially when the wakes approach!
 
Another note, If the rafted boats are sportfishers with towers one better be sure they are not exposed to large boat wakes. The two boats rocking out of sync makes for a sure trip to the tower/rigger repair shop :eek: .
 
We had a party at one of the near by watering holes. Where Mad Dog Mike was playing and 14 boats rafted off of me. I always use my fenders plus there's. Just so I know my boat is protected. At the island city docks it is mandatory rafting. I don't go to the city docks because you get all kinds of weekend drunks that this is the only time they use there boats. Very stupid and inconsiderate. I raft with friends lots of times.

BILL
 
Look at who you are rafting up with and how. We hang boats together on their own tackle and then pull them close so that if anything lets go we move apart. Some even hand stern to stern and deploy anchors on both vessels to keep them separated. All in all if responsible boaters do this responsibly there is no problems. Just remember that outsiders can get in the middle of your raft pretty quick so have a exit plan.
 
I absolutely hate rafting up! But I'm a curmudgeon and readily admit it. :mad:

The last thing I want to do on a boat is to be tied up next to other boats. If I wanted to be that closely "attached" to others, I'd live in a cheap apartment and not own a boat at all.

To me the beauty of owning a boat is being able to anchor out and NOT be around other people. That being said, I really do enjoy VISITING folks on their boats and visa versa using the dink to do so. But to actually raft up with other boats...as Louie B Mayer once said, "Include me out."

But, of course, to each his own.
 
I liken rafting up as more like your closest friends staying in your guest house for the evening after dinner and a few drinks so they don't have to drive. They are (temporarily) right next door yet have their own separate, private dwelling for the evening and yours is preserved as well. Just as you wouldn't have just anybody sleep over, you shouldn't let just anybody raft up with you.

My concern with "visiting" other boats while cocktailing is because you are now driving to/from a party just like on land. If I plan to have dinner/drinks with another couple with a boat that are close friends, I usually suggest a raft-up. For non-drinkers I can see the benefits, but from a safety and legal standpoint I feel that I am doing the right thing by not operating a motor vehicle/vessel (even just a dink) out on the roads or waterways after the anchor is set and the booze begins to flow.
 
I can recall when the sentiment about drinking/driving was, "Don't drink and drive, you might hit a bump and spill some!" :eek:

But times have changed and your point is a good one. Even better, it has given me a good reason I can now use not to visit ANYBODY at all! :D

As another old saying goes, "Long distance makes good neighbors."

Then again, we live in the heart of Mexico City - the largest metropolitan area in the western hemisphere (second largest in the world) ...go figure.:rolleyes:
 
ThirdHatt, beautiful paint!!!!
 
I used to raft up quite a bit with my 27'er. I have had it get hit by another boat, numerous flying balls smack it, unknown people board it, and it goes on and on. I was young and the party was fun, but the boat allways got beatup in one way or another. I will not raft up with other boats in the 60'er. I end up worring too much about rechecking the fenders, lines, and such. I would rather anchor away fron the crowd and bring in the dink.
 

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