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Permatex hi temp silicone - 8V71ti

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On a discussion a few days ago we talked about the use of various sealers for exhaust systems. We all agreed that Silkolene is clearly the one to use for hi-temp stuff. However, I found an interesting item as I was re-assembling the exhaust system on one of my 8V71Tis. In cleaning the turbo flanges and the showerheads, I found that permatex hi temp - the copper stuff - had been used between the showerhead and turbo flange. The part that was interesting was that it looked perfectly normal - just like it would look on any other gasket surface that was not exposed to high heat.

I am not suggesting that it can handle as hi a temp as silkolene - per specs on both, it cannot. In fact, silkolene can handle approximately double the temp - 1470F vs 750F. But since the permatex has been in place since the engines were overhauled in 1998, it obviously worked fine in this application. So apparently, in the 8V71ti the exhaust temps are not particularly high at this joint. I have never measured them with the temp gun at this spot but I will later today on the other engine. Since the water-jacketed shower head is attached directly to the turbo flange, it clearly has the heat-carrying capacity to reduce the temps at the joint to relatively low levels.

Only after I shoot the temps on both turbo flanges of the operating engine to confirm that the temps are well below the limits of the permatex would I consider using it instead of the silkolene. But if it is appropriate temp-wise, permatex is only a few bucks a tube.

Why does this matter? Because I can't find my tube of silkolene - I don''t remember when I used it last or what the heck I did with it - but I do have the permatex in my kit!
 
I checked the temps on the turbo exhaust flange. The highest temp I recorded was 227F. The exhaust side of the turbo housing was the same. 1/2 inch away, on the shower head, the temp was 76F!

227F is less than 1/3 of the max temp permatex copper can handle so, when I assembled the other engine's exhaust collector and shower heads, I used permatex copper - I still couldn't find the silkolene. Fired up the engine and got the same temp range on the flanges. I have no idea if the exhaust systems are the same on other DD negine/boat setups but for the oem system's turbo exhaust flange to showerhead on an '80 53MY with 8V71TIs, the permatex copper easily handles the temperature should you wish to use a sealant.

For that matter, I won't hesitate to use it on any joint that needs sealant as long as the temp probe doesn't show higher than 500F. Since the product is good to 750F, that leaves quite a comfortable margin.
 

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