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Oil filters

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With insightfull help of this forum I am about to undertake my first oil change on my 37c with J&T 671n's. One thing I forgot to ask about was oil filters.I was presented with 3 options; 1. stock OEM Detroit filter 2. Baldwin fiberglass filter, or 3. Pahl(splelling?) fiberglass filter. Does anyone have any thoughts as which is the best option? There is quite a spread in price but not so much as to influence my choice. I would just like to know I have the best filter. Any info would be helpful. Thanks Scott.
 
Baldwin MPGs are great filters. I run 'em and like 'em.

Detroit's OEM ones are pretty good too.

In a pinch, WIX.
 
Heresay only, but Baldwin is a good choice.

First concern is the correct oil. I assume you have heard it before, but straight wgt 40W only and then that which is intended for 2 cycle DD's. E.g., Texaco Ursa 40, Shell Rotella 40 (not multi-grade), Exxon XD40 (formerly Mobil), others that post here...
 
I wonder if anybody's ever done an independent study of oil filters. I got opinions from all the guys on the dock back when but nobody seemed to be able to defend their preference with any data. I happen to use Wix but only because that's what the closest store sells.

Reminds me of the study done on barns a while ago. The writer asked all the barn owners why their barns were all painted red. They said red paint was the cheapest at the local store. He then asked the local store why red was cheaper than other colors. He said it was because that was what he sold the most of.
 
Paper-based oil filters are pretty interchangeable. NAPA and Wix are the same, both are made by the same folks and they also supply a LOT of the OEMs.

When you start talking about the glass-pack filters though there is a difference - between them and the paper ones. The glass-pack are superior - period, end of discussion. They're also more expensive - about twice as much.

However, they hold a LOT more grit, and they filter to a much better level, as they are partially depth and partially surface filters. Paper filters are surface-only devices.

There are some folks who have undertaken a study of the various OEM-style filters out there by cutting them open and measuring and inspecting. This is great for automotive, but I know nobody who has done the same thing for boat diesel filters. However, what I learned from this is that one avoids certain brands and that others are all pretty much the same.

WIX/Napa are available anywhere, of decent quality, and are inexpensive.

OEM are probably no better than the WIX/Napa, but at least are "safe".

If you want high performance, you want a glass-pack oil filter. More money, but worth it, unless you're going to put some kind of bypass system on your engines (that's even better, but is quite spendy.)
 
I think I would like to try the glass-pack filters. What brand names should I look for?
 
Baldwin - the ones that have the suffix "MPG" are the glass-pack ones.

The common one for most Detroits is the B95-MPG.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone! I think I will try the glass packed ones, and as the Pahls(again not sure on the spelling) are only a little more than the Baldwin's I am going to try the Pahls. I will keep everyone posted on how they work for me.

Thanks again
Scott
 
Re: Oil filters/Railroad (?)

My brother has been a Union Pacific engineer for 30 years. He notes that the bottom of the oil filters become crushed in when the oil change interval is too long and the filters can no longer pass adequate oil flow. I assume that too bad things happen- oil pressure can be reduced, or oil can bypass the filter to a degree. This is on industrial grade 16v cyl 4,000hp engines.

So my analysis is that internal construction strength is a valid measure of quality. I do know that filter construction strength does vary.
 
Use the Detroit 23530408 it is a glass media filter and only retails for 19.85.
 
Are these glass media filters available for Cats? I have an oil change coming up this fall.
 

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