not to worry about clean hull

[ram]

in regards to the bottom cleaning not being done.....found out the boat was stripped and painted in 2010 not 2008, my mistake..spent big bucks....there were no banacles just slime....the surveyor i hired sent his partner because he was committed....their company was the one who did the survey on this boat recently for the insurance...small world....they knew the boat...they worked for me..not the broker..cleared things up today..no longer an issue.
thanks for all your replies

 

[magnawake]

Thats good. Hope things work out and you purchase this Hatteras. I have sure learned alot in the last 1 1/2 yrs. This was my first purchase of a large boat. It was very frustrating. However, I didnt have a broker in my corner. I made every mistake you could make and went in blindly. Seems like the brokers around here werent too interested in earning my business. Overall the purchase of our Hatt was a very bad experience. But, that was then, now we are having a great time living aboard.

 

[ram]

Thats good. Hope things work out and you purchase this Hatteras. I have sure learned alot in the last 1 1/2 yrs. This was my first purchase of a large boat. It was very frustrating. However, I didnt have a broker in my corner. I made every mistake you could make and went in blindly. Seems like the brokers around here werent too interested in earning my business. Overall the purchase of our Hatt was a very bad experience. But, that was then, now we are having a great time living aboard.

doing the mechanical tuesday, will know in a few days about oil sample, have the last 2 weeks of July off, what better time to buy a boat, should close in the second week, very excited, the broker is working for them not me, the owners have been members of his marina for a long time. that's ok everything going along pretty good. my wife is a wreck ha ha. the boat is really good shape for an '85 so that's half the battle, right? just have to find a name, will let you know in a week or so , thanks

 

[magnawake]

What kinda '85 is the boat? Ours is a 1985 43'MY. I heard of a 85' MY that just got hauled in Wilmington, NC last week. Our 43' is in really good shape as well, but last week in Morehead I saw another 43' that looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. Totally awesome paint. I havent heard of that boat on the Hatt forum either.

 

[ram]

What kinda '85 is the boat? Ours is a 1985 43'MY. I heard of a 85' MY that just got hauled in Wilmington, NC last week. Our 43' is in really good shape as well, but last week in Morehead I saw another 43' that looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. Totally awesome paint. I havent heard of that boat on the Hatt forum either.

the one i am looking at is 1985 36 convertable ll..... it has had 2 owners so far. both canadian, west coast...i just wanted to have to buy one boat and i think i found her. big bucks in this part of the country but its only an hour from home.... big enough for us 2 and plenty capable for the west coast. it has a cool radar arch that is too high for my covered slip but i am having that hinged if i buy her.

 

[richard collette]

What kinda '85 is the boat? Ours is a 1985 43'MY. I heard of a 85' MY that just got hauled in Wilmington, NC last week. Our 43' is in really good shape as well, but last week in Morehead I saw another 43' that looked like it just rolled off the showroom floor. Totally awesome paint. I havent heard of that boat on the Hatt forum either.

Hi--not sure but you may have seen my "71 43DC as I go to Morehead--live in Beaufort --glad to share info as I have done a lot on mine--very good boat for me. EMAIL-rc5376@gmail.com

 

[magnawake]

Hi--not sure but you may have seen my "71 43DC as I go to Morehead--live in Beaufort --glad to share info as I have done a lot on mine--very good boat for me. EMAIL-rc5376@gmail.com

Hi Richard, Our boat is a 1985, 43' MY. The Boat we saw was at Morehead Yacht Basin and was exactly like ours. The name was "Dressed Rehearsal". We stayed at Beaufort Docks for three days right in front of Clawsons. What a great town. We had a fantastic time and will be back next year.

 

[rmatt]

RAM
I just purchased a 1986 36 Sedan last winter. It's diesel powered 3208T Cats. PM me if you wish to compare notes. I've been all over this vessel like white on rice trying to become familiar with all the systems.

 

[MikeP]

FWIW, oil samples are not really of much use unless there are records of periodic samples on the boat. You can have a rather bad oil sample result that tells you nothing or a good oil sample result that tells you nothing.

If the oil was just changed, the sample will come out great, regardless of actual condition; if the oil has not been changed in a while and the engine hasn't been run and then is run for a while and sampled, you can get an incorrectly bad result from that.

A one time oil sample as part of a survey is more of an IQ test for the seller (change the oil first) than an accurate picture of the engine's condition.

 

[rsmith]

FWIW, oil samples are not really of much use unless there are records of periodic samples on the boat. You can have a rather bad oil sample result that tells you nothing or a good oil sample result that tells you nothing.

If the oil was just changed, the sample will come out great, regardless of actual condition; if the oil has not been changed in a while and the engine hasn't been run and then is run for a while and sampled, you can get an incorrectly bad result from that.

A one time oil sample as part of a survey is more of an IQ test for the seller (change the oil first) than an accurate picture of the engine's condition.

Mike is correct, but there has been alot of discussion re oil analysis. When I first went to the Lubrication Engineers synthetic oil in 1978 the oil change was supposed to be as recomended by the analysis samples periodicly drawn thru the dip stick tube. I got nervous after 500 hours and changed it anyhow. After years and years of sampling with no apparent benifits I quit wasting the $ and change at 1 year or 500 hours which ever comes first. I owned and operated a Cessna 340 pressurised twin engine aircraft for 23 years and sampled both engines at the recomended 50 hour oil change and never showed any results that indicated any need to look at the engines even though I had metal shavings in the filter from a bad camshaft at one point.
A lot of people on here swear by oil analysis but I have never seen anyone post results that led them to a engine tear down or prevented a catastrophic failure. Not a lot of bla bla bla BS but actual copies of the test data and pics of the damage. IMHO its a "feel good" thing.
If your really worried cut the filters open and inspect the filter media for metal chips and shavings.

 

[rmatt]

MikeP
Sir, I agree and disagree with your opinion of oil samples. I agree that if the oil is new the samples are worthless. I don't agree that if the engines have not been run that the samples are not of value. Whatever is in the sump is going to show whatever wear metals are present. Hours on the oil will be a factor as to parts per million but not the wear metals or contaminants. In a sea trial with the engines brought up to temp you can get an idea of whats happening in the engine before it says watch this. If a extremely high Iron,aluminum,chrome show up it would be of concern along with other contaminants. Regardless of whether the engines have been run often or not the oil retains whatever is produced . I equate oil samples like a blood test, it just says what may be happening, not fool proof but enough to be of value. Also all base lines have to start somewhere.
Just my opinion FWIW.

 

[MikeP]

I have seen high iron content in samples (auto engines) that was caused by engines that weren't run in a while having surface rust on the cyl walls. After starting, that surface rust ended up in the oil sump and the sample. Oil change and subsequent periodic samples were fine.

" I equate oil samples like a blood test, it just says what may be happening, not fool proof but enough to be of value. Also all base lines have to start somewhere."

But I certainly can't argue with that! I'd just rather the base line had started earlier and that the first sample wasn't when I was considering the purchase.

 

[rmatt]

I have seen high iron content in samples (auto engines) that was caused by engines that weren't run in a while having surface rust on the cyl walls. After starting, that surface rust ended up in the oil sump and the sample. Oil change and subsequent periodic samples were fine.

Think of the wear when those engines fired with the surface rust.

I'd just rather the base line had started earlier and that the first sample wasn't when I was considering the purchase.

I agree, but sometimes you get what you get. I guess my whole point is better something than nothing. Most analysis labs will give you a scenario of what may or not be going on and we get the challenge of making a decision as to what to do.