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New River Canal, Ft Lauderdale info needed

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The 58' Hatt is currently at a marina at SR84 and I-95. I haven't been on the New River Canal since 1971 so what changes/"fun" am I now looking at to get to the ICW...
 
This should help, a trip down on a big boat and a written description

From another site......



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYUwV49lGs&feature=youtu.be


The New River in Fort Lauderdale, Florida is very popular with boats and yachts. There are several boat yards up the river which cater to large yachts as well as many restaurants and entertainment venues.

I thought I’d offer a little information for yacht and boat operators who may not be familiar with navigating the New River. This information is directed mainly towards the boat and yacht owner operators who may not be quite as knowledgeable with the communication between other vessels and bridges as the professional skippers who operate on a daily or near daily basis. I am not going in to detail all the way up the river. I just thought the following information might help make traveling on the New River a little bit safer and more enjoyable for everyone if they were a little familiar with some basics. This is not trying to tell anyone what to do and I take no responsibility in any kind of mishaps or accidents which might occur if following this information. The operator of the vessel must always use their own best judgment.

The river is rather narrow for larger vessels and when the current is moving it makes navigation a bit more challenging. The current does usually run a bit faster on an outgoing tide. On weekends and holidays boat traffic is heavier which adds to the sport.
The tow boats quite often tow 100 foot yachts and larger up and down the New River to and from the yards. Sometimes even yachts in the 140’ range. So you can imagine it can get a bit tight sometimes.

All of the commercial vessels, such as the tour boats, tow boats and fuel barge boats monitor vhf channel 9 as do the bridges. Most larger yachts who know the area monitor channel 9 as well.

I will be referring to the New River going inbound or up river starting at markers 5 and 6. The river is very straight forward from there to marker 11 where you enter what is known as Tarpon Bend where there is the first “S” turn to maker 12. It is customary and appreciated if you are operating a vessel over about 40 feet in length or with more than about a 14 foot beam that you give a security call on vhf channel 9 giving your boat name, location and size as you are entering the river. Your first security call should be given before you approach marker 11 or in other words before you enter Tarpon Bend. Then again once you pass marker 12. I used the boat sizes only as a rule of thumb. If you happen to be quite new to boating and you are running a 30 footer that you tend to get sideways quite often, it would be nice if you gave a call as well. You might keep in mind that an 80 or 100 plus foot yacht can not stop and get out of the way nearly as easy as a 35 footer. Also keep in mind that the vessel that is going with the current has the right of way. As you go up or down the river, the best places to give at least a brief security call is as you approach the turns where you can’t see other boats coming. You will hear boats calling out nicknames as to their locations such as, “The Girls School” or “Little Florida”. These are spots where rather narrow turns are located. If you are new to the area you won’t know these areas by the nicknames. The best bet is to be aware of your location with a chart and listen to the radio and when approaching a turn, give a quick call on channel 9. You will know areas on the chart where US1 goes under the river. This is quite obviously referred to as The Tunnel.

From marker 12 it is a rather easy straight shot for about a quarter mile to the next bend. Please keep in mind when meeting an oncoming vessel, normally it is expected that you will pass port to port which is known as a one whistle pass or each boat keeping to their right. There are times, because of any number of circumstances, where you might pass on the other side or starboard to starboard a two whistle pass. In these cases it is good to make these situations clear between each boat over the radio before you meet.

The first bridge you come to is Third Ave. Bridge. Call the bridge tender on channel 9 if you need the bridge to open for you. The bridges usually have a marker or gauge that indicates its lowest point. If you ask the bridge to open and you don’t need it, the bridge tenders are not happy and it could result in a hefty fine. The next bridge is Andrews Ave. Just after Andrews Bridge there is a train bridge. This is always open unless a train is coming. This train bridge is automatic and no one stands by a radio for it. There is an electric sign that indicates if the bridge is coming down. If it is, you just have to wait. After this train bridge is the Seventh Ave. Bridge, and then on to Davie Blvd. Bridge. After this you will come to the train bridge immediately after the tall I95 bridge. This train bridge does have a bridge tender and stands by channel 9.

Please keep in mind that I gave an indication as to the size of boat that should give a security call. I am not giving any official rules of the road here. You should keep up with that on your own. If you think you are too small it is still a good idea that you listen to channel 9 so you know if a big boat is on its way toward you and you can take appropriate action.
 
When you see the 130 ft go under two big overhead fixed bridges, the next Marina on the right is at 1 95 and SR 84
 
Since I work at Bradford Marine about a mile further up the New River, I do the river all the time. Most important to know is that the four bridges on the river will not open during morning 7:30 til 9 and evening 4:30 til 6PM rush hours. If you are under 20 feet clearanceyou should get through, if you can get under one bridge you can get under all of them. 20 to 22 feet will depend on the tide.

From Marina Bay out bound there is also a railroad crossing "CXS Railroad Bridge", normally open. Call if it is closed and they will let you know if another train is coming. The next bridge is "Davie BLVD" and the area along the river after Davie is known as "The Wiggles," then soon after the extremely sharp bend around "Little Florida." As the big yachts go up and down the river along with the Jungle Queen and other tour boats they will give security calls for their locations, but unless you have local knowledge you will not know where those places are along the river.
The next bridge is "Seventh Avenue", then "Andrew Avenue" and the last is "Third Avenue." Just outbound of Third Avenue you will go over "The Tunnel" then further down the river on the north side with a blue hulled express cruiser at his dock is "The Girl's School." This has been a private home since 1990 but is still called "The Girls School." Then "Tarpon Bend" where the small Tarpon River comes into the New River, and then the river widens and is easier to run the last mile to the ICW.
Please feel free to call me 954-801-3645 or send a PM
 
Great info from all... I was born in Ft Lauderdale and lived there till 1979 (or 28 yrs ) so know all the names of the bridges and the like... Will kinda be like a "home again" trip
 
Call Randy he can help :o
 
The boat"endless stories" is at Cable Marine West per the owner... And NO, do not need Randy.... (yet)
Is there fuel there?
 
No sweat Charlie. I mean after all, it's only a river... :)
 
The 58' Hatt is currently at a marina at SR84 and I-95. I haven't been on the New River Canal since 1971 so what changes/"fun" am I now looking at to get to the ICW...

I haven't seen anyone talk about New River current. When we bought BUFFALO GAL she was berthed in Las Olas, so I didn't have to do the New River. However, my broker mentioned that the current on tidal shifts could be strong there, and really push a boat around. The banks of the river seem to be lined with boats on both sides, so maneuvering appeared to be tight in some spots. I did watch a couple of larger yacht crews working pretty hard to stay off the walls while the current was pushing them. Yachtbrokerguy can probably advise you about the tidal currents.
 
I fully remember the current.... In 1966-69 era, my buddy and i would leave on a Friday nite after school, run his 12' Gamefisher with a 6 hp Mercury down a long canal in Plantation, carry the boat and gear over a dike into the 84 canal...then fish our way to the inlet... We fished all night then made the run back Saturday afternoon...
 
Let me augment some of the excellent info already posted, using the outbound route.

Made the trip quite a few times to/from west of 95 in my 56. Monitor channel 9 (as well as 16) because that's what everyone uses to announce position and arrange passes and places to pull over, as well as coordinating with the excellent bridge tenders.

Re-learn the landmarks as mentioned above and announce your position as you approach the key ones, named for various bends mostly. The first is approaching the railroad bridge by 95 which is a little tricky, blind and confined. Announce yourself and describe your boat and the length (Incentive, 60 foot Hatteras motoryacht", that way the pros will recognize you coming) and that you are headed all the way out bound to the ICW. That way everyone down stream will expect you at some point. Once you get past Lauderdale Marine the next big turn is at River Bend, or sometimes called Pier 17 for the point across the river. Then the Davie bridge and the Wiggles, with a pull over spot at the bend called the Ducks, then River Reach (the big terracotta apartment complex), the Benihana (a blue tiled roof house) right before Little Florida, which is a very sharp turn. That takes you to The Split where the north branch intersects. Straight motoring from there to the next big bend at The Performing Arts Center, followed by the little jag sometimes called The Old Grocery right before bend at the Tunnel (where 1 crosses under), followed by the Girls School (which is actually the green 6 story or so apartment building on the north bank), thence to Tarpon bend. And of course all the bridges along the way. Usually everyone is very polite about queuing up for openings and arranging who goes through first (whoever has the following current especially on the ebb).

As I said, there are great bridge tenders along here who do a terrific job communicating and serving their dual conflicting constituencies, motorists and boaters. My favorite time to go outbound is in the morning right before they close, they do a terrific job coordinating and timing the openings to get you outta there fast. The guy at Andrews Ave always gave me grief, because he thought I didn't need an opening at lower tides, but I have never got him to insure my radar (I always have the antennas down)

The first time I went up it was quite and adventure, before I knew the territory and customs. To make things real interesting a down bound Viking lost a gear at the Benihana and swerved right in front of me. I had to slam em back quick and with the current, with a nice 58LRC docked right behind. Man that 18 foot beam seemed wide those first few trips.

If you can, take your dinghy down someday ahead of time and bring a radio to get the feel of it. It's really fun putting around territory.

That's pretty much what I know, such as that may be..
 
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Great info from all... I was born in Ft Lauderdale and lived there till 1979 (or 28 yrs ) so know all the names of the bridges and the like... Will kinda be like a "home again" trip

Then you remember the "Button on the beach"
 
The current change is approximately an 30 minutes to an hour after high tide at Andrews Ave. Some of the water in the river comes all the way from Lake Okeechobee so if there is rain locally or even to the north of us the current can get stronger. With a full moon after a tropical rain and a west wind the current outbound can be challenging. If the current is on you bow it is much easier. One other quick note about the downtown section with high rise buildings on both sides of the river, the wind can get funneled by the tall buildings and will change direction quickly.
 
I used to run up and down the New river back in the 70's and 80's. It was loaded with waterlogged palm fronds. I sucked one up and stopped one of the engines cold. Between them and the Jungle Queen coming down river sidways it was always an interesting trip.
 
Got some good news this morning. Tom is having the boat fueled and moved to Pier 66 marina next week.. That means we can just take off first thing next Saturday morning without having to waste time on the New River Canal...:cool:
Now if we could just get a nice weather window so as to run the ocean.....:p
 

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