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Need hull and engine surveyor recommendation in Chattaooga

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We are looking at a 1981 48' MY in Chattanooga. Will need a good engine (6V92 TA) and hull surveyor. Any recommendations? I found seven wet areas in decks and hard top, and two soft areas in hard top.
 
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In 1994 my dad sold his 49' Gulfstar MY that was in Guntersville, AL. The buyer brought in a surveyor from Chattanooga who was excellent. We (the sellers) hated to see a guy so thorough, but it really didn't matter since the buyer was "in love". Anyway, I don't remember the guy's name, but I wish I would have kept his card. Who knows if he's still around, but if he is, maybe you can ask around in some of the local marinas and find out.
 
NINE locations with "rotted core"? RUN AWAY---DO NOT WALK--RUN!!!!!
 
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NINE locations with "rotted core"? RUN AWAY---DO NOT WALK--RUN!!!!!

I would say that it all depends on the price. Rotten coring can be repaired if not too extensive. If you can buy the boat right and you know what you are getting into, then you could come out alright. I would, however, be very careful. You will want to get to a really low price to begin with before spending a bunch of money on a survey. And even then, you will be taking a risk that you could be spending a bunch to get her repaired correctly.
 
You never find all the rot until you open that can of worms (lliterally). There's ALWAYS ten times as much as you expect to find. If you found 9 rotten places in the boat, there are 90. One spot of rot is ok. Nine are not. It's a matter of degree.
A boat with a lot of rot has to be almost free to pencil out. (or you labor rate is $.06/hr)
 
Hi guys, thanks for the replies and for your adivce. I'll proceed with caution. I never considered that the stuff I could detect might be just the tip of the iceberg.

Bob
 
You guy can really be harsh at times. Wet core is one thing, rotted core is another. The location of either, and its cause makes a big difference when it comes to the need or desire for remediation or repair. I have attended a lot of surveys in my day. Most boats have some wet core material somewhere. It's discovery doesn't necessarily have to trigger the donning of your track shoes. If its a nice boat, and you like it enough to want to own it, then give it the respect of a complete survey. Once you have the entire picture, an intelligent decision can then be made to proceed, or not. Good luck. The 48 is a wonderful model.
 
Nobody's badmouthing 48's. Just giving advice learned the hard way, so that perhaps another forum member can be spared the pain.
Also, one has to be realistic about older boats. They almost always have some rot somewhere or other. You just want to avoid one that has a lot of rot. These problems are always worse than they appear at first glance.
But........the only way to buy a boat with no old age issues, is to buy a new one. :eek: $$$$$$$$$$$ :eek:
 
Yeah, and if you think that buying a NEW boat means no issues, you've never owned a NEW boat!

I have - and believe me - you'll STILL have issues. In many ways I'd rather have the used one - not only do you not spend as much, but when YOU fix it (instead of trying to get a manufacturer or dealer to do it) you KNOW it was done right.

I was very nearly killed by a power steering failure in a small craft that I purchased, brand new, and which I had noted on the 20-hour checklist had a minor power steering fluid leak a number of years ago. The dealer claimed they had repaired it. They had, in fact, done nothing. Shortly thereafter the entire hose assembly in question came apart while under way, completely removing my ability to steer - and in a place and time where I was at imminent risk of collision (Murphy is like that.) It was NOT fun.
 
I assume most of you have read Pascoe's book. His advice to have new boats surveyed is right on the money. I (and my father) have had three brand new boats. One of them almost sank at the dock, a builder fault. (green keelson, split the fiberglass) We caught it just in time. If we hadn't decided to go down to the boat that morning...........As it was, we had an emergency haul out instead of a salvage.
 
I couldn't tell you for sure if this is the guy or not. It may be since he says he has over 30 years experience. How many could there be in the Chatanooga area that have been around that long?

Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
 
Gary did our survey.
His work looks good, but he did not say anything about a few soft spots we had. Let him know what you are aware of, he will be working for you.
He does have the experence. My insurance guy said it was the best looking survey he had ever seen. (looks must count).
Kerry
Diamond Sun
1969 50 Hatt MY
We bought her in Chatt. TN
 
Thanks. Gary will certainly be convenient to use.

I'm still looking for a recommendation for a surveyor for the DD 6V92's. Who did you use? Happy?

Bob
 
We used Gary Swearengin, GDS Marine surveyor and consultant from Huntsville, Ala. - 256-881-2589. Its a little far away, but he did a thorough job.
 
Use Diesel Don for your engines and trans and Gen.
He is from Scottsboro, AL.
256-259-6432 Home
256-259-7728 Cell
Don is in Chatt often.
Tell him we said to use him.
We were in Island Cove Marina.
Kerry Alexander
Diamond Sun
 
Most of the boats we are talking about were built in the eighties or nineties, or even earlier in some cases- like mine. I think the balsa cored decks have held up surprisingly well- most core failures are not the fault of Hatteras' construction but the fault of subsequent custodians of the boats who drilled into the deck and didn't diligently waterproof the areas they'd drilled into. I have so far had more problems with the aft bulkhead- there are a couple of bad areas again in it. Really this should be replaced with a Coosa bulkhead but I am not going to take the boat apart at the beginning of the season, dammit.
Wet core CAN be dried out and treated. Rotten core has to come out. These are treatable issues if they can be quantified and should not kill the sale of a boat that is otherwise suitable. These are all used boats- none are perfect.
And regarding new boats- one of the sainted Pascoe's big issues ( and fairly so) has been the balsa core problems on Sea Rays, I think it is, where it seems pretty clear (at least in my opinion) that Sea Ray has had not only a construction problem on some of their boats which allowed the balsa core to rot, but also a problem in helping out the owners of said boats and stepping up to the plate and fixing the boats or replacing them. That said, I have not checked in on the issue in a while. But as the man said, it's not at all difficult to have a structural core problem on a brand new boat. The very fact that Hatteras yachts built in the seventies are around in numbers to get bought, sold, surveyed, and discussed at length ought to tell you something. For every boat with a balsa-cored deck that has a problem, there are literally thousands out there with no trouble at all.
 

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