Large yacht road transport - 53' or bigger...

[hatteras 1985]

I own a farm in Illinois, 20 miles inland from Lake Michigan off a major highway. Which of these MY's would I be able to move off the lake and into a heated barn on my property for the winter, if any? Permits, waivers and any extra permission are all extras, I was just wondering if it was physically possible.

53' MY ?

56' MY ?

61' CPMY ?

The 53' has a 15'10'' beam, while the others have an 18' beam. I would assume they are too wide/tall but was wondering if anyone had experience or photos of someone moving such a collosal hulk.

Regards,
Jim

 

[Boatsb]

Depending on the route and local restrictions any of them may be movable but the cost would probably be prohibitive.

The height issue is solved by removing the bridge but the amount of work is just too much for winter storage.

It would probably cost less to store it in a shed at a marina

 

[MarioG]

all require permiting. removal of flybridge for bridges ect if needed. big bucks overall.

 

[hatteras 1985]

Consider the flexibility of a bimini top and a retractable radar arch. The height issue would be the biggest 'if' in my opinion. Looking at the side view of a 53' MY it has to be at least 15' tall...

The route to my farm would involve no bridges, but there would be power lines.

 

[Boatsb]

The standard road height is 13'6. the trailer is at least a foot. That leaves 12'6" for clearance before oversize permits.

If the power lines are anywhere near the 13"6 mark you will be way too tall.

I would guess the boat is 13" with the bridge removed. Removing the shafts and rudders may get another foot but again the amount of work is extreme.

 

[Angela]

I looked into this once. It is cost prohibitive. Don't waste your time.

 

[jim rosenthal]

Hatteras used to transport very large yachts from High Point down to New Bern for launching. However, they had the details all worked out and they did it all the time. They liked it enough (not) that they finally moved all their production to NB and stopped carrying them over the road. I can't blame them.

It can be done. The question is wouldn't it be a lot easier and cheaper to rent sheltered space for the winter; my understanding is that in that part of the country there are plenty of huge storage areas which are indoors, heated, and used to keep big boats on the hard for the winter. I'd look into that.

 

[hatteras 1985]

Hatteras used to transport very large yachts from High Point down to New Bern for launching. However, they had the details all worked out and they did it all the time. They liked it enough (not) that they finally moved all their production to NB and stopped carrying them over the road. I can't blame them.

It can be done. The question is wouldn't it be a lot easier and cheaper to rent sheltered space for the winter; my understanding is that in that part of the country there are plenty of huge storage areas which are indoors, heated, and used to keep big boats on the hard for the winter. I'd look into that.

I have never owned a boat on the Great Lakes, but I thougt it would be neat to store a boat on my own property. A friend of ours has a 54C and he keeps it at some place on the Illinois River. It costs a few grand every winter.

 

[scary]

A friend of mine bought a 56' steel trawler from a farmer in Minnesota who did just that. He had his own trailer and tractor to haul with. This boat weighed close to 70,000lb. I would think the cost of a barn and trailer plus all of the shoring would make this a expensive proposition. They ship 100' house boats from Arkansas to lake Powell and to the larger California lakes all the time. All it takes is route planning and the ability to handle big machinery, something most farmers are good at doing.

 

[hatteras 1985]

A friend of mine bought a 56' steel trawler from a farmer in Minnesota who did just that. He had his own trailer and tractor to haul with. This boat weighed close to 70,000lb. I would think the cost of a barn and trailer plus all of the shoring would make this a expensive proposition. They ship 100' house boats from Arkansas to lake Powell and to the larger California lakes all the time. All it takes is route planning and the ability to handle big machinery, something most farmers are good at doing.

It wont let me post url's as I do not have 15 posts to my name yet. So I'll paste the info direct from YW...

Is this the one?

56' Seaton Trawler Long Range Custom 56
Year: 2008
Current Price: US$ 424,900
Located In New Buffalo, MI
Hull Material: Steel
Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel
YW# 70912-1894213

Additional Specs, Equipment and Information:

Specs
Builder: Seaton Trawler

Dimensions
LOA: 56'
Beam: 17'10"
Maximum Draft: 6'
Displacement: 9,775

Engines
Engine Brand: Cummins
Engine(s) HP: 270 @ 1800 RPM
Engine Model: 855
Cruising Speed: 8.5 Knots
Maximum Speed: 10.5 Knots

Tanks
Fresh Water Tanks: 750
Fuel Tanks: 3000
Holding Tanks: 650

 

[boatwright]

check with a permit broker.their data base will tell you the specific clearance issues with your route.with only 20 mile route you may have less clearance issues than a longer trip would involve. check with a local trucking firm for a broker in your area.

 

[Walter P]

I agree that for a run of only 20 miles in what I suspect is a relatively rural area (to a farm) it may be really simple to do. IF there are no bridges to go under, or power lines, including traffic lights. All this is possible, not probable but you won't know until you check. It's real easy to check by the way. All you need to do is drive from the boat yard that will be loading the boat on a trailer to your farm and take careful notice of any possible obstructions along the way. If none consider yourself unusually lucky. I would love to have my boat near my house on my own property next to my own shop for the winter, but no way will that happen in NJ. Good luck......

Walt

 

[hatteras 1985]

I agree that for a run of only 20 miles in what I suspect is a relatively rural area (to a farm) it may be really simple to do. IF there are no bridges to go under, or power lines, including traffic lights.

I assume wide loads trips like this would be taken at night. That would make a lot more sense.

- No bridges

- Yes traffic lights (but you can drive around those)

- Yes power lines (several) - this might be the only problem...

All this is possible, not probable but you won't know until you check. It's real easy to check by the way. All you need to do is drive from the boat yard that will be loading the boat on a trailer to your farm and take careful notice of any possible obstructions along the way. If none consider yourself unusually lucky.

Another thing is that I will need to get the thing off the trailer onto blocks once at my farm, unless, of course, the carrier company let me keep the trailer for the winter.

I would love to have my boat near my house on my own property next to my own shop for the winter, but no way will that happen in NJ. Good luck......

If the cost of moving a 50 something boat to my farm every winter would be equal to or less than winter storage (7-10k/year) I would seriously consider it. I would even build the heated shed were it feasable. However, I rather doubt it would come close to making economic sense, though I am still checking into it for peace of mind -
.

 

[jim rosenthal]

It is very unlikely to make economic sense ever. You should also think about the risks of anything happening to the boat during the transport and the kind of costs that would be associated with that sort of catastrophe. ALSO, you should find out what your marine insurance company thinks of all this. They may perhaps have a rather dim view of it.

I think you are better off either hauling the boat, carefully winterizing it, and having a winter cover made (expensive but reusable), or finding heated storage for it. None of this will be cheap, but the price of admission to this party of ours pales in comparison to the cost of the drinks

 

[SKYCHENEY]

Many of the Ill and Wisc boats end up in Michigan for winter storage. It seems we have an abundance of inside heated buildings and the rates are much lower. Many ride the ferry over to Muskegon in the spring and back across in the fall after dropping off their boats. Rates run from about $5-7/sq ft which includes pressure wash and blocking. No winterization is needed as the buildings stay at about 55 degrees.

I doubt you could move a boat this size 20miles inland and back for those prices.

 

[scary]

It wont let me post url's as I do not have 15 posts to my name yet. So I'll paste the info direct from YW...

Is this the one?

No this boat was bought 5 or six years ago. Gearge sailed it to Fort Lauderdale and shipped it via Yacht Wise to Vancover, BC And brought it down the coast to the Cal delta.

 

[hatteras 1985]

It is very unlikely to make economic sense ever. You should also think about the risks of anything happening to the boat during the transport and the kind of costs that would be associated with that sort of catastrophe. ALSO, you should find out what your marine insurance company thinks of all this. They may perhaps have a rather dim view of it.

Yes, they might. Or, maybe the carrier would have insurance that would cover the trip.

I think you are better off either hauling the boat, carefully winterizing it, and having a winter cover made (expensive but reusable), or finding heated storage for it. None of this will be cheap, but the price of admission to this party of ours pales in comparison to the cost of the drinks

Yes, although most people up here opt for heated storage as winterizing something with 5 air conditioners, 3 heads and endless fluid lines is more expensive and is hard to gaurantee 100%.

Many of the Ill and Wisc boats end up in Michigan for winter storage. It seems we have an abundance of inside heated buildings and the rates are much lower. Many ride the ferry over to Muskegon in the spring and back across in the fall after dropping off their boats. Rates run from about $5-7/sq ft which includes pressure wash and blocking. No winterization is needed as the buildings stay at about 55 degrees.

I doubt you could move a boat this size 20miles inland and back for those prices.

You and Jim Rosenthal are probably right... Still, a photo of a large hatt on a trailer would be nice to see!

 

[jim rosenthal]

There are probably some historical photos of big Hatts making the overland trip from HP to NB back in the day...maybe Doug can find us some.

We don't have the winterizing issues here that you have- it doesn't get as cold here as it does up where you care. There is no margin for error when you are talking about weather which gets THAT cold for that long.

If you have the option of taking the boat over to indoor storage in MI for that kind of price, it would be worth it, seems to me. You can't visit it nearly as easily, but how much visiting or work on it will you do when the weather is that cold? Not too much.

 

[hatteras 1985]

For some reason I can't use the image function on here...

Anyways here is a picture of user smoothmove's 'smooth move' on the hard w/ wheels...

http://www.samsmarine.com/photopost/data/500/MI_winnebago.jpg

 

[yachtsmanbill]

For some reason I can't use the image function on here...

Anyways here is a picture of user smoothmove's 'smooth move' on the hard w/ wheels...

http://www.samsmarine.com/photopost/data/500/MI_winnebago.jpg

>>If you have the option of taking the boat over to indoor storage in MI for that kind of price, it would be worth it, seems to me. You can't visit it nearly as easily, but how much visiting or work on it will you do when the weather is that cold? Not too much.<<

I guess 144 man hours a week dont count, eh?? The drinks aint bad... its the cover charge! BTW... Erics boat is a 38 which pales in comparison to anything >50 feet. Where in Ill. are you? You are welcome to come see my 58 first hand! ws