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I was just checking a few well known sites for selling boats because I like to see what different Hats are selling for...no I'm not looking to sell mine. I saw a bunch of boats that were damaged heavily from Katrina and after seeing them feel sick to my stomach...as though they were my boats that were damaged. Just a crime! Beautiful boats trashed. Anything from 50+ foot Hats down, with holes so large I could crawl through them myself without a problem. Deck to hull joints ripped apart ...just destroyed. Some of them looked as though they'd never see water again yet they wanted a ton of money for them. I guess even demolished a Hat holds value!

Just thought I'd share my horrifying experience.
 
Yeah, there was a 43 Hipo Hatt SF here that got nailed by Ivan - holed in the bottom and partially sunk (water up to the top of the engine room). The tower was also damaged.

It sold at auction for.... get this..... $70,000!

The guy who bought it had to hotpatch the hull to be able to float it, then have a permanent repair made for the hole, pull both engines and gears and have them bench rebuilt, and he's STILL got a holed boat with a trashed interior that needs a complete rewiring job and all new interior systems.

I bet he's got $200k+ in that boat - and he's got one with a total on its record with CLUE, so getting insurance ought to be lots of fun.

If he really wanted a 45ish he could have bought mine for somewhere around there, and mine has never seen the bottom......

I don't get it. I actually considered buying that one until the bidding got way out of hand. I might have given 'em $10k for it as it sat, figuring a complete repower and rewire was necessary, plus of course all the interior woodwork that would have to be re-done.
 
What sites were you looking at? I'd just be curious to see the amount of damage.
 
Not all boats are salvageable, and I am speaking from my point of view as an eternal optimist who's restored too many hopeless cases (like the Gwagen I'm now involved in which ought to have been scrapped out, probably). There's a point where it's just not worth it. One of the sadder parts of the aftermath of the storms is that lots of folks are going to attempt to fix these boats and do a shoddy job; then the boats will get sold on and be problems for all the subsequent owners. Cars and trucks that have been submerged are subject to laws regarding their resale- I think it may be illegal and a lot of them have been impounded- but I don't think it holds for boats.
I hate to see a Hatteras or any quality boat get scrapped out, but I would hate even more for someone to buy a Hatteras that had been resurrected and should not have been- it will give them a bad taste of boating in general and Hatteas in particular. I hope that does not happen.
There are yards that can refit and rebuild a totaled boat that has been flooded- one of Slane Marine's earliest efforts was just such a boat and it was featured in their brochures (it had hit a mooring buoy), but I am willing to bet you that most of the folks that attempt this are not going to be competent at it and there are going to be a certain number of "rebuilt" problem boats out there. And there will be some people who see price as the only issue who are going to get sucked in on this. :(
 
That second link, the 41- If you were given that boat AND a cashiers check for $20k, it still would not be a good deal. That craft is a liability that will cost good money to dispose of. The first link boat looks like it was not in very nice shape even before the storm. I have a theory that boats that are loved and cared for don't usually end up on the beach in the storm because the owners take precautions. The boats that are for sale anyway, or are not cared about get "sold" to the Insurance Company after the storm. I have tested out this theory by looking at the BOAT US photos of piled up boats, then gone to Yachtworld only to find the same boats there, having been for sale for a year prior to the storm. Am I cynical or what? :rolleyes:
 
Anybody remember Andrew? I believe there were more boats going towards the "eye of the storm" than those that were leaving, if ya know what I mean.

have fun boating garyd
 
Nice to know all the liquor bottles survived intact!
 
Just made the ferry from New Iberia, La with my new/old 41 Hatteras. She went through Katrina but from all we found, Capt: Scott and I , most of the damage was minimal. However, the previous owner had neglected her but hopefully in a few short weeks, months she will look like new!
Iwas concerned about the DD8V53's but they purred all 337 miles without a burp.
Looking forward to fixing her up for as someone else said on this site "it's more about Love" than $$'s. Ha!
One thing for sure, I have never been on such a solid boat in her class before! She is solid as a rock!
She is home in Rockport, Texas for now.
 
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I was thinking the same thing myself. How in the world did all that liquor survive with the boat taking suck a beating? I also wondered why there were so many pictures of the liquor in the add? Was the broker trying to say something about the fine ride of a Hat is soo good it can make it through a hurricane without spilling the liquor?!

Anyhow, I just found it amazing that in the shape some of those boats are in the asking prices seem outrageous. I don't think some of them should ever hit the water again...unfortunately. I feel very lucky to be up here in the northeast..sure my boating season is shorter but I have less chance of stuff happening to my boat like what was shown in the pictures. I've had my share of scares since I've owned the boat but I care enough about it that I would do whatever I had to do to avoid it. I don't care how good my insurance is...the money can't replace how much work has been done and the knowledge I've gained about what's under my feet in the water when I'm on it. I know what's there because I've touched every single square inch of this particular boat. With another boat I'd have to start all over again because I'm just that way...I have to know....and fix.
 
There's an expression for that, which is: "better the devil you know, than the devil you don't". Or...yes I know how to fix this, from the last three times I fixed it. :D
 
Boy, what a true statement. "I have touched every square inch of this boat". I feel the same way. I know this boat inside and out. In two short years I have personally dealt with every part on our Hat. I don't think I would be so interested in starting that process again. If the boat were cared for as well as ours, maybe. If the boat was abused and run over by a hurricane, no way. The work and money involved in bringing those boats back to the condition of ours, (and most of yours), is beyond comprehension.
 
If what happened to these boats happened to mine…

I know I would cry…
 
I did cry when it happened to me, and you don't have to live in Florida to get hit with a storm. I was hit with a micro-burst at the mouth of the Sassafras river, Maryland, July 1991 and it blew my boat over until only the bottom showed. I cried when I saw it floating away as me and my wife were just able to get to the surface. I had bought a 36' Kadey Krogen trawler in 1986 and it was my pride and joy. Cruised the Chesapeake every weekend and really had a ball. It all changed in a matter of about 3 or 4 minutes. That was the duration of the storm. It ended so soon that it didn't have time to generate any waves. When we got to the surface it was all over and dead calm. We were lucky to suvive being under 14 feet of water and my wife with a gash to the head that needed stitches. BoatUS gave me the total sales price for the boat, no problem. Somebody bought it for salvage and restored it and is cruising the east coast with it now. It took me 13 years to get back into boating after that and now I have a Hatteras. Life is not all that bad! Ron ;)
 
Wow, what a story. I can’t imagine… Sorry to hear it but glad you made it through.

The wind just blew you over?
 
They call them "microbursts" when they can't find enough rotation on doppler nor do they have a personal sighting of the characteristic visual to call them by their more common name (usually because they don't last long enough.)

That'd be......

Tornado.
 
Mirco-Bursts

I apologize for the micro-highjack, but do these weather events give any warning at all? Did it look like a heavy squall line or was there any of that dreaded freight train sound?

What can you do to protect yourself against something that fast & powerful?
 
It looked like a regular thunderstorm to me. We saw several of them as we proceded up the bay, all that missed us. Dark threatening clouds and fresh breeze. We only heard the very loud and heavy rain for about 1 minute before the starboard side started to slowly lift as if a giant hand was lifting us. No train sound. Couldn,t see a thing. I believe we would have been okay if we would have anchored at the first sign that it was heading our way. At least we would be pointed into the wind. I don't know if I had enough time to do that. It was moving so fast. Ron
 
I recall that somewhere in the 10 to 20 year-ago time frame, microbursts were in the headlines due to an airliner crash during landing. The details as I remember, are that neither control tower or on-board radars could detect the thing and it was a clear air event. I think something was done regarding sensors around the perimeter of airports to detect very localized winds. Maybe the doplers are improved now. Any airline pilots out there with input?

What a scary boating experience!

Gary
 
They can be a clear-air phenomena but most of the time are associated with thunderstorms in the immediate area.

They're NASTY and can crash planes on approach - windspeeds reach tornadic force but in a very localized area and for a very short period of time.

The Mets say they're completely distinct from tornadoes but I'm not so sure I buy that. Certainly a tornado is much longer-lived, but the general mechanics look pretty similar to me....
 
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